@southern-psu-fan
I’m done with this conversation. You twist logic to fit your way of thinking. Now you are making claims that current protesters are worse than the far/alt right, which is mind boggling. Where were you when those hate groups took over Charlottesville while Trump sat silently for days about it? Were you on here for weeks on end posting about it like you are now? I’m not buying your, aw shucks I just support the president line anymore. You like Trump for a reason.
we talked about it here and I hammered the evil scumbags there just like I’m hammering the scumbags in these riots today and more people have died in these riots. I got into it with remoh that day about it because he thought they had a right to protest when I don’t. I don’t believe you have a right to protest hate because it’s not piece full it’s hate and regardless of what side it is they’re looking for a fight and I know I’m right because look at what happened in Charlottesville and look what’s happening in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Minnesota and NY. 99, I told ya I like whoever is in charge. My 4 favorite politicians today is Trump, Chuck Schumer, Mayor Bottoms from Atlanta and Ruth Bader Ginsburg I know she’s a supreme justice but I love that woman she’s tough and doesn’t take any chit off anybody just like the other 3. Who better to have on the front lines fighting for the Americans than these 4 today? None, these are fighters and that’s what I want regardless if I agree with them or not. I told ya 99 I pull for tough winners and if I’m correct 3 of these 4 are democrats and the other one use to be a democrat.
BTW I’m not saying remoh condones white Supremacy he just thought they had a right to protest just like all Americans I’m saying if it’s hate and will cause fighting it shouldn’t be allowed. When people show up at protest and wear helmets and body armor and have guns and baseball bats they’re not there to protest it’s that simple. Legally remoh was probably right.
"I won’t argue with that. You have made multiple good points. However, the decision to go on a wild goose chase for “weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq by Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld when the presumed mastermind behind 9/11 was known or thought to be in Afghanistan cost the U.S. approximately $2 trillion. It was a colossal mismanagement of government power by those three crooks. They also railroaded Colin Powell for it. "
VERY TRUE
these white supremacy groups hate everybody unless you’re one of them and they hate republicans just as bad as democrats they are terrorist. They’ll also go to jail or get shot dead if they attack the police or carry around assault weapons unlike the scumbags that are rioting right now. These punks that are rioting right now are given a pass when they should be treated the same way as white supremacy groups.
How can you say White Supremacy groups hate Republicans when groups like the KKK openly endorse Trump?
BTW I’m not saying remoh condones white Supremacy he just thought they had a right to protest just like all Americans I’m saying if it’s hate and will cause fighting it shouldn’t be allowed. When people show up at protest and wear helmets and body armor and have guns and baseball bats they’re not there to protest it’s that simple. Legally remoh was probably right.
Wait a minute Southern... you said everyone in the country should have a gun, you are a big gun supporter, but apparently you don't like it when protesters carry them?
from what I’ve always heard most of your kkk members were Democrats. I’ve never seen a kkk member so I really don’t know and I don’t know that white supremacy groups vote for trump either that’s maybe your opinion because you’ve heard it from whoever you listen to. I don’t know who they vote for and neither do you but with trump having Jewish people in his family I would doubt they do.
Thats right but since I think everybody should have a gun if they want one doesn’t mean I think everybody should be able to carry on the streets. I believe you should be licensed to carry out in public. Also don’t get protesters confused with rioters because white supremacy groups ain’t protesters they are rioters and like to kill and fight. Them scumbags in Charlottesville weren’t protesters and you know it they were there to cause a big fight and they got one.
from what I’ve always heard most of your kkk members were Democrats. I’ve never seen a kkk member so I really don’t know and I don’t know that white supremacy groups vote for trump either that’s maybe your opinion because you’ve heard it from whoever you listen to. I don’t know who they vote for and neither do you but with trump having Jewish people in his family I would doubt they do.
You are thinking of the 60s and earlier when they were Democrats. They were called "Dixiecrats" and revolted against the party during the Civil Rights movement and went to the Republican's with LBJ signed the Civil Rights act into law. It's a big reason the South, which used to be heavily Democrat, all of a sudden turned completely red from the 70s on.
Yet Republicans keep pulling out this trope as if nothing has changed since 1940.
Who says those protestors aren't licensed? Also, if you are a big 2nd Amendment guy... where does it say you need a license to carry your weapon?
I still believe criminals should have a right to defend themselves at home I just don’t think they can carry.
im giving my opinion I don’t know what all the laws are. Laws can be different in states
im giving my opinion I don’t know what all the laws are.
Here's why I don't understand your logic.
You say criminals will always find a way to get a gun, therefore we shouldn't enact gun laws that make it harder to buy guns.
Then you say people should be licensed to carry, yet based on your first statement that would just prevent normal people from carrying because criminals won't give a chit about a license. So.... why have the law?
You want it both ways.
anybody should be able to have a gun at home but I don’t believe anybody should be able to carry. Just my opinion and if that’s having it both ways then that’s what I want
@roaminglionim thinking of 60’-90’s. They probably don’t have many members now thank God.
I know you and 99 don’t like Trump and that’s fine with me but to get rid of him people need to vote him out and if the people don’t vote him out that’s what the people wanted. You and 99 are DEAD WRONG brother if y’all think I’m a republican I’m an independent I vote for whoever I think will be the best president regardless of the Satan democrat and Republican Party’s. I don’t fall for the party crap but I did at one time.
@roaminglionim thinking of 60’-90’s. They probably don’t have many members now thank God.
I know you and 99 don’t like Trump and that’s fine with me but to get rid of him people need to vote him out and if the people don’t vote him out that’s what the people wanted. You and 99 are DEAD WRONG brother if y’all think I’m a republican I’m an independent I vote for whoever I think will be the best president regardless of the Satan democrat and Republican Party’s. I don’t fall for the party crap but I did at one time.
I knew you were an Independent, never thought otherwise. I just don't see your logic on guns that's all.
Certainly don't think any less of you because our opinions are different though 🙂
Nope the second amendment is a personal right. The first 10 amendments The Bill of Rights are all protections from the government. Militia is a secondary reason. We have the God given right to be able to protect ourselves. It is settled law that the police have zero responsibility to protect us and furthermore we now have mayors telling the police to stand down.
There are communities in America, you can guess where, where the police will not respond until they get 3 or 4 cars. No, people have a right to protect themselves and if you believe Soros and Blumberg don't want all guns you need to study up.
Maybe you people that live in gated communities with private security don't understand the world some people live in. Check out the reruns of Baltimore, and the recent replays. Same fools that want to criminalize gun ownership want to defund the police but donxt want to support police reform?
Reading George Paternos book about Joe. Great quote 'he changed to republican when the democrat party went from liberal to permissive. Now we have moved to lawless and anarchists.
Nope the second amendment is a personal right. The first 10 amendments The Bill of Rights are all protections from the government. Militia is a secondary reason. We have the God given right to be able to protect ourselves. It is settled law that the police have zero responsibility to protect us and furthermore we now have mayors telling the police to stand down.
There are communities in America, you can guess where, where the police will not respond until they get 3 or 4 cars. No, people have a right to protect themselves and if you believe Soros and Blumberg don't want all guns you need to study up.
Maybe you people that live in gated communities with private security don't understand the world some people live in. Check out the reruns of Baltimore, and the recent replays. Same fools that want to criminalize gun ownership want to defund the police but donxt want to support police reform?
Reading George Paternos book about Joe. Great quote 'he changed to republican when the democrat party went from liberal to permissive. Now we have moved to lawless and anarchists.
You're just plain wrong if you think that's what the founding fathers intended. No one debated the 2nd amendment as a personal right, and back then all arms were well regulated and taken away from people who were deemed unfit. They literally made people register their weapons for the sole purpose of knowing where the guns were should they have to arm their militia.
But let's not let the actual people who wrote it dictate what it means.
My brother is a convicted felon and he’s not aloud to have a gun the cops took his gun when he went to prison. He served his time and IMO he should be able to have a gun at home but I don’t believe he should be able to carry it outside his home. Most of the time my guns stay home just depends on where I go we’re not aloud to have guns at my job. I don’t believe the democrats wants everybody’s guns they’re probably a few that do but most democrats don’t that’s just chit the republicans say to scare people just like the democrats use Social security to scare old folks lol. Man politics is a slimy business lol. That’s why I vote and let the politicians fight it out they usually get it right in the end and if you don’t believe me just look at 99% of people that live in this country we’re spoiled rotten compared to most of the world even the so called poor is spoiled.
Joe was considered a man of great character. What do you think he would think of Trump’s character?
Once again, I need help following your logic. You say you don’t want gun control because the criminals would get guns anyway. Then you say everyone should have a gun. Finally, you say even convicted felons should be allowed to have guns, but not allowed to leave their home with the gun(s). First, isn’t what you just described a form of gun control. Second, are you telling me that you are going to trust a convicted felon’s word that he or she won’t take their gun out of their house. I’m not picking on your brother, but in general any convicted felon. Also, just to turn the whole conversation on it’s head, where do you stand on convicted felons right to vote? This should be fun.
Hopefully I’ll explain this right. Everybody has a right to defend their home and IMO everybody should be able to have a gun at home if they want one. If you are a convicted felon you can have a gun at home but you can’t carry it outside your home. Yes I believe if you’ve served your time you should be able to vote. I don’t believe prisoners should be able to vote but when they get out this is their country and they should have a say so.
I’m just having a friendly conversation here with you Southern. I mean no ill will. I just am curious on your stance on this. I agree, everyone should have a chance to defend their homes and families. I do question, however, the part about trusting convicted felons to not take weapons out into public. Therefore, I remain having the opinion of background checks and denial of the ability to purchase a weapon by those deemed a threat to others. I especially think mental illness should be a automatic disqualification for gun purchases. Let’s be honest, we all know someone who shouldn’t have their hands on a weapon. As for the voting, I also agree with you. If you have served your time and paid your dues, you shouldn’t lose your right to vote. This made headlines a few days ago in Florida.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5442603002
in the big picture convicted felon that won’t obey the law after they get out will probably find a gun and leave his house anyway you can’t save everybody but they’d be a lot of convicted felon that would obey the law and not carry their guns outside their homes that’s why I think they should be able to have a gun and punish them hard if they do leave the house with a gun. I’m with ya if a person is really mentally ill that’s just common sense not to let them have a gun I’m on board with that. We have tough gun laws now and they need to be enforced. I don’t think it will happen in mine and your life time but they’ll be a day when the citizens of this country might need an assault weapon to fight the government that’s why I believe we should be able to have them. We’d probably lose the fight against the government anyway but it’s the threat of the government knowing we have these guns that might keep them from turning this country into China. Like I said we’re not even close to this but it could happen down the road. We’ve had a great conversation buddy I get excited sometimes but I assure you no hard feelings from ole southern here I love these chats to see other people’s opinion.
