You still don’t get it Roam. You getting me and Penn St mixed up. I would’ve fired James Franklin for losing the big games not Penn St they would have fired him years ago if it was about big games they fired him because he lost to UCLA and NW.
@roaminglion i disagree, if James Franklin’s only loss this year was to Ohio State he wouldn’t have got fired and I believe we win all the other games if Poindexter was the DC!
What are you talking about ?? It is well known that the reason JF was fired is because he is 0-16 in big games since 2017. In a season where the message was “all in” the losses to NW and UCLA sped up the timeline for him to be fired and did factor in but were not the main reason JF was let go.
Rumors are heating up that Drinkwitz will be hired by the end of November.
@psujoe if they wanted James Franklin fired for losing big games they would’ve fired him after the ND loss or the Oregon loss this year. James Franklin got fired because he lost to UCLA and NW and I have proof homer…they fired him after the NW loss believe what you see because that’s exactly what happened. You’re just guessing like Roam with the fake rumors you hear on podcasts.
Franklin asking for another extension may have contributed to his demise.
There’s a few on here including me that wanted him fired for losing every big game we play but as long as he’s winning 10 or 11 games a year making the playoffs he was t going anywhere. If we had 2 losses right now against Ohio St and Oregon James Franklin would still be HC that’s the facts regardless of what we want.
@rip I think you are right. And from what others have said, Franklin and his agent did not like the answer from Kraft, and they tried to go around Kraft. If all that is true, it would indicate that Franklin is selfish and self-centered. I believe that a coach with those character traits would have difficulty building a cohesive team.
IMO, the play that did JF in was the UCLA kick after UCLA drove the field for a TD.
Game, Set, Match.
LMAO - I am guessing that they fired him for the exact reason they stated they fired him for... but you have proof because of some BS hypothetical that only if Poindexter was DC he would still be here.@psujoe if they wanted James Franklin fired for losing big games they would’ve fired him after the ND loss or the Oregon loss this year. James Franklin got fired because he lost to UCLA and NW and I have proof homer…they fired him after the NW loss believe what you see because that’s exactly what happened. You’re just guessing like Roam with the fake rumors you hear on podcasts.
Do you know how crazy that sounds?
Kraft litterally stated "This is not a three-game thing," yet here are saying you have proof that it is? Uh huh... suuuuuuureeeee
@roaminglion I just believe Poindexter would’ve been a better DC for the players we have and we would’ve beat NW and UCLA regardless when did they fire him? After the NW game that’s the facts and ain’t no guessing or repeating something you heard on a podcast.
@roaminglion I just believe Poindexter would’ve been a better DC for the players we have and we would’ve beat NW and UCLA regardless when did they fire him? After the NW game that’s the facts and ain’t no guessing or repeating something you heard on a podcast.
Yes they fired him after the NW loss and by some bizarre logic that’s the only reason they fired him. Going 0-16, 0-17, 0-18 or whatever it was since 2017 in big games had nothing to do with it. The criticism he’s gotten over the years for losing all those big games is also fake and made up by podcasters and apparently his nickname of Big Game James was fake too.
And now all of a sudden in this bizzaro alternate universe it’s become a big deal when a team defeats NW.
I heard our AD say he was not fired for 3 games. Maybe you call an official press conference a podcast, but I don't.@roaminglion I just believe Poindexter would’ve been a better DC for the players we have and we would’ve beat NW and UCLA regardless when did they fire him? After the NW game that’s the facts and ain’t no guessing or repeating something you heard on a podcast.
Our AD said it, not some dude in his basement.
Bottom line: stop with the assumptions and accept the fact; JF was fired because:
- he could not win the big game;
- he could not bench players that needed to be benched;
- he set a culture of 1 and 0 as the objective and not the accumulative;
- he was paid too much money to be 1 and 0 each week only to restart the following week after a loss;
- big time donor money was not coming in until he was fired;
- you don't invest ~ $1B into a new stadium with a second tier HC leading the charge who can't get his own head out of his ass to keep the shit from hitting the fan;
And, nobody was saving his job because his job was done after the third game of the season whether folks like it or not based on the 6 points above; no assumptions, but facts.
First one is the reason, the rest are secondary or causes. He could not win a big game and he started losing little ones. And Saint Nick is wrong.Bottom line: stop with the assumptions and accept the fact; JF was fired because:
- he could not win the big game;
- he could not bench players that needed to be benched;
- he set a culture of 1 and 0 as the objective and not the accumulative;
- he was paid too much money to be 1 and 0 each week only to restart the following week after a loss;
- big time donor money was not coming in until he was fired;
- you don't invest ~ $1B into a new stadium with a second tier HC leading the charge who can't get his own head out of his ass to keep the shit from hitting the fan;
And, nobody was saving his job because his job was done after the third game of the season whether folks like it or not based on the 6 points above; no assumptions, but facts.
He might have lived after the loss to Oregon even if he lost to OSU but the third loss after being ranked #2 and and and.
I like the chopping wood culture or 100% every play or its not about the wins it is about improvement and executing...the wins will come. The 1-0 was just a way of him only talking about what he wanted to talk about.
100%Bottom line: stop with the assumptions and accept the fact; JF was fired because:
- he could not win the big game;
- he could not bench players that needed to be benched;
- he set a culture of 1 and 0 as the objective and not the accumulative;
- he was paid too much money to be 1 and 0 each week only to restart the following week after a loss;
- big time donor money was not coming in until he was fired;
- you don't invest ~ $1B into a new stadium with a second tier HC leading the charge who can't get his own head out of his ass to keep the shit from hitting the fan;
And, nobody was saving his job because his job was done after the third game of the season whether folks like it or not based on the 6 points above; no assumptions, but facts.
Don't discount #5 of Homers well thought out list...
*big time donor money was not coming in until he was fired*
Do not underestimate how important that NIL and Wealthy Alumni backing is to maintaining a winning program in this current climate of big time college athletics...When a coach doesn't have the backing of the big money guys at a University and the funding starts to dwindle that spells the end...The stagnation of this program due to the lack of never winning the BIG games took it's toll and the money guys voted with their bank accounts...You pair that with the huge infusion of money for those renovations to the stadium and facilities and these guys said enough...You can bet the mortgage these guys are engaged and quite involved in the process and using all of their resources to ensure they bring in the guy they feel will take this program to the next level which is to be among the elite programs in the country...It's going to be exciting to see who they bring in and what players join the program...
Gosh I sure did miss the Roam vs Southern chats .... good times!!
@the-funeral-director Credit where credit is due, it was PSU61 that complied the list.
My bad...I thought it was Homer...PSU61 made a great list there...Sorry PSU61...Let me give you the credit for that one...Thanks for helping me to pull my head out of my ass Been There...LOL
@southern-psu-fan Am I the only one that tinks Franklin got fired for asing foor a raise from Kraft and when he said no he wen to the board?
I’m so perplexed by these ambiguous “big money billionaire alumni” coming back to the table. When are they coming back? Where’s the money and when’s it getting here? Penn State has lost 18 decommits, there’s no indication they are gonna bring in 25 portal players on both sides of the ball. They’re going trot Grunk out there because he was able to string a couple first downs together in a CFB game, that’s how low the bar for QB is these days at Penn State. Don’t believe me? Penn State hasn’t had a first round QB drafted this century and Sean Clifford is floating around on practice squads. My point is I’m sick of this hypothetical big money billionaire talk, this team is going to be gutted eventually without a formal plan in sight to rebuild but thank god the big money MIGHT come back to the program and hold it hostage if they don’t get their way. I can’t wait what could go wrong.
@kularrow you sound as nervous as me brother 😂 I hope somebody knows what they’re doing.
@southern-psu-fan Am I the only one that tinks Franklin got fired for asing foor a raise from Kraft and when he said no he wen to the board?
I think JF asking for a raise this past summer was the second to last straw, the final straw was his total mismanagement of a season with high expectations.
@cohappy I’m sure there’s a few things that went into him getting fired but imo the shit hit the fan when we lost to UCLA and NW and I also believe if Ohio State and Oregon was the only losses James Franklin would still have a job at Penn State.
