We’ll see if the media gives them a pass like they did with Michigan State.
https://www.apnews.com/8100ceaf06c44dc2a85bea4c5daff04f
Nobody by the name of Paterno here....move along folks, nothin' to see!
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20190529/26-football-players-among-victims-in-new-ohio-state-lawsuit
New lawsuit against Ohio State by former Buckeye football players. FWIW, there is a big list of media talking heads that slammed Penn State over Sandusky who are now silent. Dan Bernstein, Mike Francesa, Joey Galloway, Trevor Mattich, etc. Bernstein said some of the most over the top things about the PSU community back in 2011 even slamming Thon on Twitter. He has been silent on Ohio State except for 1 tweet on May 21. Feel free to e-mail or tweet him your thoughts. I did and got a lame excuse response.
Whole thing is a money grab by former athletes that were done after college and didn’t put the time in while in school to get a decent education.
177 of ‘em? Let’s see if any of these guys made the NFL. You might be right sky because it’s just so hard for me to believe somebody didn’t take this creep down especially when it’s grown 250-300lbs football players. I need more information to see what really happened.we know the creep done something wrong because he killed him self
Whole thing is a money grab by former athletes that were done after college and didn’t put the time in while in school to get a decent education.
Wow. Ok.
177 of ‘em? Let’s see if any of these guys made the NFL. You might be right sky because it’s just so hard for me to believe somebody didn’t take this creep down especially when it’s grown 250-300lbs football players. I need more information to see what really happened.we know the creep done something wrong because he killed him self
You guys realize it was athletes from multiple sports, right? Not just football players. It was widespread across the Ohio St campus with this guy. He was a monster like Nassar and by all reports the OSU administration and many coaches knew about it. The University president admitted the school’s guilt a few weeks ago.
I agree he was a monster but unlike Nasser he was targeting guys that should’ve beat his butt. Young college men get in fights every Friday night and beat the crap out of each other so I don’t see any reason why somebody couldn’t have kicked his butt for touching them if they didn’t want to be touched. Something just don’t sound right that’s why I need more information.
This guy got his jollies doing hernia checks and physical observations of the naked male. Nassar did “vaginal adjustments” on young unsuspecting women. Big difference between the two. One was a monster and the other was a creep.
This guy got his jollies doing hernia checks and physical observations of the naked male. Nassar did “vaginal adjustments” on young unsuspecting women. Big difference between the two. One was a monster and the other was a creep.
You have some bad information Sky. The report detailing what happened at OSU states in some cases he jacked off athletes t"completion", groped their genitals, manually stimulated them while making inappropriate advances, etc.
I mean, dude that's not just checking hernias and looking at naked bodies. WTF?
Sky the dude is a sicko scumbag creepy monster...period!
I agree he was a monster but unlike Nasser he was targeting guys that should’ve beat his butt. Young college men get in fights every Friday night and beat the crap out of each other so I don’t see any reason why somebody couldn’t have kicked his butt for touching them if they didn’t want to be touched. Something just don’t sound right that’s why I need more information.
I disagree with your thinking Southern. I completely reject the attitude that says guys aren't really victims because athletic men are tough, and girl athletes are just too weak to fight back so need to be protected.
The truth lies in the middle. They are all people and can be victims of a sexual predator as much as the next person. We need to get over this way of looking at men as immovable objects and women as dainty flowers.
Men can do something about it if they want to when women and children can’t in most cases. Now if he had them on medication and they were defenseless that’s a totally different situation but what you said in your post above makes me think they were getting it done to them and they just stood there and let him do it because they were scared, I don’t buy it. Unless he had them on medication and they were defenseless they could’ve done something but chose not to it’s that simple. You can’t compare strength of men to women and children because men are so much stronger especially athletic men.
Men can do something about it if they want to when women and children can’t in most cases. Now if he had them on medication and they were defenseless that’s a totally different situation but what you said in your post above makes me think they were getting it done to them and they just stood there and let him do it because they were scared, I don’t buy it. Unless he had them on medication and they were defenseless they could’ve done something but chose not to it’s that simple. You can’t compare strength of men to women and children because men are so much stronger especially athletic men.
I get children, but the rest of what you said is old time nonsense. As for "the strength of men", WTF does that have to do with anything? Neither the doctor at MSU or OSU was physically restraining their victims and forcibly raping them. All this was much more psychological that that.
You need to come out of your bubble and realize a lot of sexual assault has nothing to do with physical strength. I think it's sad that you are basically blaming the victims at OSU for "letting" it happen to them.
This guy got his jollies doing hernia checks and physical observations of the naked male. Nassar did “vaginal adjustments” on young unsuspecting women. Big difference between the two. One was a monster and the other was a creep.
I agree with Roam. You are either misinformed or ignorant to what happened. Either way, I can’t imagine over 200 student athletes over the course of 20 years got together and conspired to make up sexual abuse allegations against a university doctor for cash benefit. I’m guessing since it’s a 20 year time span, many of the victims don’t even know each other. The university president admitted institutional guilt on May 21 and the doctor took his own life a few years ago. On top of that, the department of education has opened their own investigation and the governor of Ohio is asking that the statue of limitations on sexual abuse be revoked. That doesn’t seem like a money grab to me. Your outlook on the situation is actually kind of scary.
Men can do something about it if they want to when women and children can’t in most cases. Now if he had them on medication and they were defenseless that’s a totally different situation but what you said in your post above makes me think they were getting it done to them and they just stood there and let him do it because they were scared, I don’t buy it. Unless he had them on medication and they were defenseless they could’ve done something but chose not to it’s that simple. You can’t compare strength of men to women and children because men are so much stronger especially athletic men.
Southern, this is a pretty shallow point of view. It’s 2019. C’mon. It’s pretty common knowledge that people suffer and allow abuse through intimidation and fear. If the coaches and administration knew and did nothing about it then the athletes felt helpless or unable to report it for whatever reasons. Perhaps these circumstances will come out later after further investigation.
Roam, a college football player playing for Ohio st could’ve kicked his ass or at least tried when women most likely can’t. I don’t know how much clearer I can be when I said I’m glad the doctor is dead so that should tell you how I feel about this creep but at the same time if you stand there and let a man jack you off as you said happened you ain’t got nobody to blame but yourself unless he had them drugged up as I also pointed out. When you can defend yourself it becomes a choice.
Southern, We don’t know the specifics of how the physician manipulated theses kids into not reporting it. Let’s take a hypothetical look at it. Let’s say these student athletes are being told that if they report it, they will lose their scholarship, be smeared publicly, and will lose a chance at making a lot of money and helping their families out of poverty. Again, this is all a hypothetical scenario I’m using to make the point. This is how abuse occurs, through intimidation and fear. It doesn’t matter how big and strong you are or how fast you can run the 40. These monsters find ways to manipulate their victims any way they can to be silent. In this case, if the physician knew the coaches and administrators were not going to call him on any of his actions, then he had free reign over the student athletes. On top of that, the fear of the victims to admit publicly what happened to them plays into it as well. They may be afraid of what the public may think of them. Sort of how you are characterizing them now. This is part of the reason these things stay hidden for years. If everything that is alleged happened, saying it happened by choice is pretty misguided.
Roam, a college football player playing for Ohio st could’ve kicked his ass or at least tried when women most likely can’t. I don’t know how much clearer I can be when I said I’m glad the doctor is dead so that should tell you how I feel about this creep but at the same time if you stand there and let a man jack you off as you said happened you ain’t got nobody to blame but yourself unless he had them drugged up as I also pointed out. When you can defend yourself it becomes a choice.
Southern, this is absolute nonsense. Strength and being able to beat people up doesn't help you from being blackmailed or extorted, which is what a lot of sexual assault is.
You want that part in a movie? Do what you are told... If not, you will be fired and blackballed from this entire industry. I will ruin your life, so get on your knees... That is what Harvey Weinstein did to numerous women in Hollywood. It had nothing to do with strength or how physical he was. Half those women could probably kick his a$$... However, where would that get them? Probably brought up on charges of assault, kicked out of their job, and their life dream ruined in the blink of an eye.
That's exactly what these players are saying happened. You want to play at OSU? Got to go through this. Don't speak up about it either, because it will make trouble for the University. You try anything, you won't play here. You can say goodbye to your NFL dream too, because no other college will touch you once we kick you out and say you are a troublemaker. We will blackball you.
To say that these men let it happen, and either deserved or wanted it is... just... well, I am sorry for this language but it's effing pathetic. To say that unless men are drugged then they should blame themselves for being sexually assaulted is just.... wow. Blackmail. Extortion. That is what happens in most sexual assaults. "Do this now or I will make your life hell" And let me tell you, to an 18 year old kid, when you feel Ohio State University is saying that to you... it doesn't effing matter if you can lift a 4 ton bus. That ain't gonna help you.
I have no more words.
It’s still a choice. The love of money is the route to evil. If and I say if you can defend yourself and you let that sick crap happen to you it’s a choice you make.everybody has different situations but sometimes you have to make a stand.
Sky the dude is a sicko scumbag creepy monster...period!
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I didn’t say they deserved anything and I’m disgusted on what happened to them and my heart breaks for these guys but they could’ve done something about it but chose not to for whatever reason. Life ain’t easy sometimes and tough choices need to be made. James Woods is a great example of a guy making tough choices and I say this because you brought up Hollywood. James Woods chose not to be blackmailed and they ain’t no telling what else he wouldn’t do and it cost him but he made a stand.
@SPF: Correct me if I'm wrong but are you merely saying that you cant believe not ONE athlete pasted this sick bastard in the mouth?? Cause if you are, that is what I question when I read about the abuse. There is no doubt in my mind he did it, I just cant fathom that there wasnt one person who stepped forward and said "this aint right" and knocked him into last week.
You know I wrestled for PSU and as such, I know wrestlers from OSU and I've hung out with guys from our football team and I can tell you with utmost confidence that had anything like that happened to them, that bastard would have been spitting chicklets out of his bloody mouth.
I totally get what Mr Roam and Mr LBU99 are saying about the mental abuse going hand in hand with the sexual abuse and the crap this demented Dr no doubt told the guys would happen if they ratted him out but on the other hand, I just cant get past the fact that not one person has yet to come forward and say "he tried it on me and I shut him down"
