Southern, this is going to sound strange to you, but the FBS Football Championship is not considered an NCAA championship. It never really has been. The process is controlled by the Conferences, Bowls, and the media. If those groups wanted to change it, they would. The NCAA doesn't control those decisions at the FBS level.Â
Culture, if you are interested in college hockey, two sites that I find very useful are collegehockeynews.com and uscho.com. They have some predictions on the brackets. The final brackets will be announced at 7 pm tonight. I'll warn you that the folks that comment on those sites don't like the B1G schools. They see us as breaking up their regional conferences in 2012 when the B1G began sponsoring hockey. I'd love to see an all B1G championship just to spite them. It might not be possible depending on how the brackets are put together.Â
You're right Southern - you can't make this crap up! The top division of the premier college sport, and the NCAA doesn't consider it worthy of an NCAA championship ????? As stated above by Who's on, they let this process be controlled by the Conferences, Bowls and the media. Why doesn't the NCAA in it's infinite wisdom see fit to establish and oversee the process of determining the National Champion for its most popular sport? As we know, the answer is..."follow the money" LMAOÂ
Southern, this is going to sound strange to you, but the FBS Football Championship is not considered an NCAA championship. It never really has been. The process is controlled by the Conferences, Bowls, and the media. If those groups wanted to change it, they would. The NCAA doesn't control those decisions at the FBS level.Â
Culture, if you are interested in college hockey, two sites that I find very useful are collegehockeynews.com and uscho.com. They have some predictions on the brackets. The final brackets will be announced at 7 pm tonight. I'll warn you that the folks that comment on those sites don't like the B1G schools. They see us as breaking up their regional conferences in 2012 when the B1G began sponsoring hockey. I'd love to see an all B1G championship just to spite them. It might not be possible depending on how the brackets are put together.Â
You're right Southern - you can't make this crap up! The top division of the premier college sport, and the NCAA doesn't consider it worthy of an NCAA championship ????? As stated above by Who's on, they let this process be controlled by the Conferences, Bowls and the media. Why doesn't the NCAA in it's infinite wisdom see fit to establish and oversee the process of determining the National Champion for its most popular sport? As we know, the answer is..."follow the money" LMAOÂ
The NCAA recognizes the champion of FBS football, they just don't have a hand in organizing how the champion is selected. However, as I said they are officially recognized by the NCAA.
To say it's about money is a bit much, considering it's been done this way since the later 1800's. I'm not saying money isn't a reason, but the historical significance of choosing the champion in Football this way is a big factor. It's tradition, always has been. If it was only about money, I think they would have gone to a playoff years ago... You'd make more off of quarter-final and semi-final games then you would off of bowl games.
Southern, this is going to sound strange to you, but the FBS Football Championship is not considered an NCAA championship. It never really has been. The process is controlled by the Conferences, Bowls, and the media. If those groups wanted to change it, they would. The NCAA doesn't control those decisions at the FBS level.Â
Culture, if you are interested in college hockey, two sites that I find very useful are collegehockeynews.com and uscho.com. They have some predictions on the brackets. The final brackets will be announced at 7 pm tonight. I'll warn you that the folks that comment on those sites don't like the B1G schools. They see us as breaking up their regional conferences in 2012 when the B1G began sponsoring hockey. I'd love to see an all B1G championship just to spite them. It might not be possible depending on how the brackets are put together.Â
You're right Southern - you can't make this crap up! The top division of the premier college sport, and the NCAA doesn't consider it worthy of an NCAA championship ????? As stated above by Who's on, they let this process be controlled by the Conferences, Bowls and the media. Why doesn't the NCAA in it's infinite wisdom see fit to establish and oversee the process of determining the National Champion for its most popular sport? As we know, the answer is..."follow the money" LMAOÂ
The NCAA recognizes the champion of FBS football, they just don't have a hand in organizing how the champion is selected. However, as I said they are officially recognized by the NCAA.
To say it's about money is a bit much, considering it's been done this way since the later 1800's. I'm not saying money isn't a reason, but the historical significance of choosing the champion in Football this way is a big factor. It's tradition, always has been. If it was only about money, I think they would have gone to a playoff years ago... You'd make more off of quarter-final and semi-final games then you would off of bowl games.
I can appreciate what your saying Roam, but you won't change my opinion 🤔. I think there is a big difference between "recognizing" a champion and actually establishing a playoff format like the NCAA does for the other divisions. I still believe money is the over riding factor for the conferences, bowls and media. They just don't want to let go of the status quo and the NCAA doesn't have the stones to take it away from them. There have been many traditions (e.g. rivalry games) that have been trashed down through the years - IMO money trumps tradition day shift and night shift!  Â
Thanks for the tips, man, Ill check those sites out..I did get a look at the brackets, saw ND is playing Clarkson, I think next weekend at 630...Ill follow every ND game, and even if they don't make the frozen 4, I always follow that..
What happenend to those Boston stalwarts, BU and BC..I still remember ND Losing in final to BC a few yrs back..
Exactly the way I see it bob. Let the money start slowing down and the ncaa will step in.
"Tradition" has been used an excuse for many sins. Perhaps more money would be made from an expanded playoff. However, the structural change would create new challenges to the power structure. A lot of questions would have to asked and answered by the power brokers that they don't want to answer. For example: "How do we distribute this new pot of money? Gasp! Will we have to share it with those "less worthy" than us? Gasp! What will happen to the Poinsettia Bowl, the Pizza Pizza Bowl, and other games with sub-five-hundred teams? Gasp! Will we have to let one of "less worthy" teams from the non-Power-Five into the playoff and risk a major upset to our way of life? Gasp! Will the term "meets the eye-test" have to eliminated from our vocabulary? Gasp!" They don't want to have to deal with these and many more questions. So, the "Tradition" continues.
Culture, I'll answer your comment about BU/BC in the hockey section and let the others continue to beat their dead horse here.Â
Southern, this is going to sound strange to you, but the FBS Football Championship is not considered an NCAA championship. It never really has been. The process is controlled by the Conferences, Bowls, and the media. If those groups wanted to change it, they would. The NCAA doesn't control those decisions at the FBS level.Â
Culture, if you are interested in college hockey, two sites that I find very useful are collegehockeynews.com and uscho.com. They have some predictions on the brackets. The final brackets will be announced at 7 pm tonight. I'll warn you that the folks that comment on those sites don't like the B1G schools. They see us as breaking up their regional conferences in 2012 when the B1G began sponsoring hockey. I'd love to see an all B1G championship just to spite them. It might not be possible depending on how the brackets are put together.Â
You're right Southern - you can't make this crap up! The top division of the premier college sport, and the NCAA doesn't consider it worthy of an NCAA championship ????? As stated above by Who's on, they let this process be controlled by the Conferences, Bowls and the media. Why doesn't the NCAA in it's infinite wisdom see fit to establish and oversee the process of determining the National Champion for its most popular sport? As we know, the answer is..."follow the money" LMAOÂ
The NCAA recognizes the champion of FBS football, they just don't have a hand in organizing how the champion is selected. However, as I said they are officially recognized by the NCAA.
To say it's about money is a bit much, considering it's been done this way since the later 1800's. I'm not saying money isn't a reason, but the historical significance of choosing the champion in Football this way is a big factor. It's tradition, always has been. If it was only about money, I think they would have gone to a playoff years ago... You'd make more off of quarter-final and semi-final games then you would off of bowl games.
I can appreciate what your saying Roam, but you won't change my opinion 🤔. I think there is a big difference between "recognizing" a champion and actually establishing a playoff format like the NCAA does for the other divisions. I still believe money is the over riding factor for the conferences, bowls and media. They just don't want to let go of the status quo and the NCAA doesn't have the stones to take it away from them. There have been many traditions (e.g. rivalry games) that have been trashed down through the years - IMO money trumps tradition day shift and night shift!  Â
Meh, if this was the case the basketball schools would have never let the NCAA take away the championship from them either. It used to be that the NIT was the big tournament, but over time that changed too. Ultimately in 1971 the NCAA barred teams from competing in the NIT if they were invited to the NCAA tournament.
Again, there's more money to be made in a large playoff system from TV rights and ratings alone... so I don't know why they'd be holding on to the old system if money were so important to them. Perhaps if you said power was more important, I'd get on board with that... Money and power are often equated, but can be very different.
It’s controlling where the money goes Roam. They don’t want teams  like UCF taking the playoff money home and you have even said that so if that’s the case it’s about money and plus they can control who gets in, in the scam we got going on in college football. Common since tells us we should have the system you’ve laid out but if they did your system a team like UCF might slip in and take the money, it’s all about money.
Southern, this is going to sound strange to you, but the FBS Football Championship is not considered an NCAA championship. It never really has been. The process is controlled by the Conferences, Bowls, and the media. If those groups wanted to change it, they would. The NCAA doesn't control those decisions at the FBS level.Â
Culture, if you are interested in college hockey, two sites that I find very useful are collegehockeynews.com and uscho.com. They have some predictions on the brackets. The final brackets will be announced at 7 pm tonight. I'll warn you that the folks that comment on those sites don't like the B1G schools. They see us as breaking up their regional conferences in 2012 when the B1G began sponsoring hockey. I'd love to see an all B1G championship just to spite them. It might not be possible depending on how the brackets are put together.Â
You're right Southern - you can't make this crap up! The top division of the premier college sport, and the NCAA doesn't consider it worthy of an NCAA championship ????? As stated above by Who's on, they let this process be controlled by the Conferences, Bowls and the media. Why doesn't the NCAA in it's infinite wisdom see fit to establish and oversee the process of determining the National Champion for its most popular sport? As we know, the answer is..."follow the money" LMAOÂ
The NCAA recognizes the champion of FBS football, they just don't have a hand in organizing how the champion is selected. However, as I said they are officially recognized by the NCAA.
To say it's about money is a bit much, considering it's been done this way since the later 1800's. I'm not saying money isn't a reason, but the historical significance of choosing the champion in Football this way is a big factor. It's tradition, always has been. If it was only about money, I think they would have gone to a playoff years ago... You'd make more off of quarter-final and semi-final games then you would off of bowl games.
I can appreciate what your saying Roam, but you won't change my opinion 🤔. I think there is a big difference between "recognizing" a champion and actually establishing a playoff format like the NCAA does for the other divisions. I still believe money is the over riding factor for the conferences, bowls and media. They just don't want to let go of the status quo and the NCAA doesn't have the stones to take it away from them. There have been many traditions (e.g. rivalry games) that have been trashed down through the years - IMO money trumps tradition day shift and night shift!  Â
Meh, if this was the case the basketball schools would have never let the NCAA take away the championship from them either. It used to be that the NIT was the big tournament, but over time that changed too. Ultimately in 1971 the NCAA barred teams from competing in the NIT if they were invited to the NCAA tournament.
Again, there's more money to be made in a large playoff system from TV rights and ratings alone... so I don't know why they'd be holding on to the old system if money were so important to them. Perhaps if you said power was more important, I'd get on board with that... Money and power are often equated, but can be very different.
I'll meet you half way, Roam. Money and Power trump tradition day shift and night shift!   Â
Southern, this is going to sound strange to you, but the FBS Football Championship is not considered an NCAA championship. It never really has been. The process is controlled by the Conferences, Bowls, and the media. If those groups wanted to change it, they would. The NCAA doesn't control those decisions at the FBS level.Â
Culture, if you are interested in college hockey, two sites that I find very useful are collegehockeynews.com and uscho.com. They have some predictions on the brackets. The final brackets will be announced at 7 pm tonight. I'll warn you that the folks that comment on those sites don't like the B1G schools. They see us as breaking up their regional conferences in 2012 when the B1G began sponsoring hockey. I'd love to see an all B1G championship just to spite them. It might not be possible depending on how the brackets are put together.Â
You're right Southern - you can't make this crap up! The top division of the premier college sport, and the NCAA doesn't consider it worthy of an NCAA championship ????? As stated above by Who's on, they let this process be controlled by the Conferences, Bowls and the media. Why doesn't the NCAA in it's infinite wisdom see fit to establish and oversee the process of determining the National Champion for its most popular sport? As we know, the answer is..."follow the money" LMAOÂ
The NCAA recognizes the champion of FBS football, they just don't have a hand in organizing how the champion is selected. However, as I said they are officially recognized by the NCAA.
To say it's about money is a bit much, considering it's been done this way since the later 1800's. I'm not saying money isn't a reason, but the historical significance of choosing the champion in Football this way is a big factor. It's tradition, always has been. If it was only about money, I think they would have gone to a playoff years ago... You'd make more off of quarter-final and semi-final games then you would off of bowl games.
I can appreciate what your saying Roam, but you won't change my opinion 🤔. I think there is a big difference between "recognizing" a champion and actually establishing a playoff format like the NCAA does for the other divisions. I still believe money is the over riding factor for the conferences, bowls and media. They just don't want to let go of the status quo and the NCAA doesn't have the stones to take it away from them. There have been many traditions (e.g. rivalry games) that have been trashed down through the years - IMO money trumps tradition day shift and night shift!  Â
Meh, if this was the case the basketball schools would have never let the NCAA take away the championship from them either. It used to be that the NIT was the big tournament, but over time that changed too. Ultimately in 1971 the NCAA barred teams from competing in the NIT if they were invited to the NCAA tournament.
Again, there's more money to be made in a large playoff system from TV rights and ratings alone... so I don't know why they'd be holding on to the old system if money were so important to them. Perhaps if you said power was more important, I'd get on board with that... Money and power are often equated, but can be very different.
I'll meet you half way, Roam. Money and Power trump tradition day shift and night shift!   Â
Sounds good to me!Â
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Here’s some more light reading for you Culture. Seems the ND alumni aren’t as warm and fuzzy about Kelly as you are. Yes, last year looked good on paper, but getting throttled in a big bowl game again won’t help his cause. His record at ND in big games is atrocious.Â
Kelly is a very good coach, probably at least top 10 currently. What the ND alumni fail to see is that Kelly has pretty much taken them to their modern-day ceiling. In the modern college football landscape, ND is very unlikely to win national titles, even with all the people tilting the machine for them. They put unrealistic expectations on any head coach. They fired Tyrone Willingham for doing a decent job, and got rewarded with Charlie Weis. Urban Meyer grew up a ND fan, but turned the job down when he left Utah. What ND did last year was impressive, but that's as much as I expect to see from them for the rest of their history.
Exactly right mean green Kelly May have an attitude problem sometimes but he’s a great coach I might even say top 5 coach.
