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(@roaminglion)
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Why the #$@$#@ is 7-5 Texas in a bowl game with #11 Utah?

Can the Bowls and NCAA please get off their knees and stop blowing the Longhorns?



   
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Got that right Roam!



   
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Well, that was pretty direct.  I like it!



   
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For a match up like this, I'd consider playing my first team the first quarter (they got us here) and after that play the second and third stringers (they helped get us here and need game experience) the rest of the game. I know that sounds/is a bit (whatever) but matching an 11-1 team against 7-5/6-6 team is BS IMO as a final game. That is the type of game I can really see marque players opting out due to potential of injury and unfortunately in this day and age the "take one for the team, has now become show me the money and the school ain't paying me no money". 



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

Why the #$@$#@ is 7-5 Texas in a bowl game with #11 Utah?

Can the Bowls and NCAA please get off their knees and stop blowing the Longhorns?

I'm not surprised...

Why is a #9 team playing a number #24 team? Why are teams that are ranked higher passed over for lower ranked teams for better bowl games.  The system is a joke.



   
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Why the #$@$#@ is 7-5 Texas in a bowl game with #11 Utah?

Can the Bowls and NCAA please get off their knees and stop blowing the Longhorns?

I'm not surprised...

Why is a #9 team playing a number #24 team? Why are teams that are ranked higher passed over for lower ranked teams for better bowl games.  The system is a joke.

It would be nice to get a group of bowls to sign onto a contract where only ranked teams or conference champs are allowed. Say have the 8 team playoff, but then take the rest of the top 25 in a pot and set the matchups. Make it so no team can be ranked more than 5 spots away from the other and try to stay away from teams who played each other during the season.



   
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@roaminglion

That would be great to have the caveat of no match up can be more than 5 spots different...

I would like to even see 5vs6 7vs8 9vs10 and so on...



   
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@roaminglion

That would be great to have the caveat of no match up can be more than 5 spots different...

I would like to even see 5vs6 7vs8 9vs10 and so on...

I like this also but that really boils down to tournament play without a true championship. Another option outside of the Big 4 would be to set up bowl games and match up teams that are interesting games that typically can't be scheduled during the regular season e.g.

Bama: Michigan/Penn State/WVA/Okla/ Okla State; ND

Penn State: ND/ VA Tech/Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, GA, WVA

Ohio State:Florida State/Florida/VA Tech/Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, GA, WVA

Just off the top of my head for above; I think some match ups really don't rely on a ranking, its the teams that is the draw.


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@roaminglion

That would be great to have the caveat of no match up can be more than 5 spots different...

I would like to even see 5vs6 7vs8 9vs10 and so on...

I like this also but that really boils down to tournament play without a true championship. Another option outside of the Big 4 would be to set up bowl games and match up teams that are interesting games that typically can't be scheduled during the regular season e.g.

Bama: Michigan/Penn State/WVA/Okla/ Okla State; ND

Penn State: ND/ VA Tech/Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, GA, WVA

Ohio State:Florida State/Florida/VA Tech/Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, GA, WVA

Just off the top of my head for above; I think some match ups really don't rely on a ranking, its the teams that is the draw.

That's exactly what I want to get away from. Texas playing Utah? Only because Texas "draws"... they don't deserve to play the #11 team in the nation so get someone else in there. I don't care about draw, if you have a matchup of ranked teams the draw will take care of itself. IMO TV ratings would go up if you had a lot of interesting ranked matchups on TV.



   
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@roaminglion

Sad thing is Texas will probably beat Utah lol. Rank these dang  teams like the true top 5 does and teams like Utah  won’t  be up there. 



   
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I don't see a Texas/Utah game as a big draw regardless of ranking, unless both were ranked in the top 5 and don't see it as a big draw; I personally don't think much of TX football.

Personally I like the 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc or some other seeding format, I just think it goes down the road of why not just play a tournament like Div III and actually have the teams settle it on the field. 

With the current system who really gives a chit about the other bowl games except some alumni, bettors and locals who take in a game for something to do. Take PSU for example, ranked # 10 playing #17 Memphis; if Memphis was ranked # 11 or 12 would it make a better draw? I say no, who gives a chit, it's Memphis. However what if  10-2 Oklahoma/Bama/ND/Navy/Boise/Baylor/Oregon was ranked #17, any interest in a #10 PSU match up with any of those teams? Hell yeah, any of those would be worth watching IMO. 

Just saying that that once the prize is removed from the outcome, set it up to be a fun regional marque game, hell a 6-5 PSU vs 6-5 Bama would draw high ratings. 


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I might be wrong about Utah because they do play in the PAC and they’re actually doing pretty dang good but I still think Texas can beat ‘em



   
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I don't see a Texas/Utah game as a big draw regardless of ranking, unless both were ranked in the top 5 and don't see it as a big draw; I personally don't think much of TX football.

Personally I like the 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc or some other seeding format, I just think it goes down the road of why not just play a tournament like Div III and actually have the teams settle it on the field. 

With the current system who really gives a chit about the other bowl games except some alumni, bettors and locals who take in a game for something to do. Take PSU for example, ranked # 10 playing #17 Memphis; if Memphis was ranked # 11 or 12 would it make a better draw? I say no, who gives a chit, it's Memphis. However what if  10-2 Oklahoma/Bama/ND/Navy/Boise/Baylor/Oregon was ranked #17, any interest in a #10 PSU match up with any of those teams? Hell yeah, any of those would be worth watching IMO. 

Just saying that that once the prize is removed from the outcome, set it up to be a fun regional marque game, hell a 6-5 PSU vs 6-5 Bama would draw high ratings. 

DIII isn't nearly as physically taxing on the body as Division I. DIII is more like High School football than FBS.

That said, it's exactly what an 8 team playoff is, 5 conference champions and 3 wild cards. The only difference between DIII and that is at the FBS level the conferences aren't nearly as balanced as they are in DIII. The Sun Belt has no business acting like the SEC or Big Ten, and most would say they don't deserve a auto bid based on their level of competition conference wide.



   
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I don't see a Texas/Utah game as a big draw regardless of ranking, unless both were ranked in the top 5 and don't see it as a big draw; I personally don't think much of TX football.

Personally I like the 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc or some other seeding format, I just think it goes down the road of why not just play a tournament like Div III and actually have the teams settle it on the field. 

With the current system who really gives a chit about the other bowl games except some alumni, bettors and locals who take in a game for something to do. Take PSU for example, ranked # 10 playing #17 Memphis; if Memphis was ranked # 11 or 12 would it make a better draw? I say no, who gives a chit, it's Memphis. However what if  10-2 Oklahoma/Bama/ND/Navy/Boise/Baylor/Oregon was ranked #17, any interest in a #10 PSU match up with any of those teams? Hell yeah, any of those would be worth watching IMO. 

Just saying that that once the prize is removed from the outcome, set it up to be a fun regional marque game, hell a 6-5 PSU vs 6-5 Bama would draw high ratings. 

DIII isn't nearly as physically taxing on the body as Division I. DIII is more like High School football than FBS.

That said, it's exactly what an 8 team playoff is, 5 conference champions and 3 wild cards. The only difference between DIII and that is at the FBS level the conferences aren't nearly as balanced as they are in DIII. The Sun Belt has no business acting like the SEC or Big Ten, and most would say they don't deserve a auto bid based on their level of competition conference wide.

If you are in a conference in the FBS then you deserve a seat at the playoff table.



   
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I don't see a Texas/Utah game as a big draw regardless of ranking, unless both were ranked in the top 5 and don't see it as a big draw; I personally don't think much of TX football.

Personally I like the 5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc or some other seeding format, I just think it goes down the road of why not just play a tournament like Div III and actually have the teams settle it on the field. 

With the current system who really gives a chit about the other bowl games except some alumni, bettors and locals who take in a game for something to do. Take PSU for example, ranked # 10 playing #17 Memphis; if Memphis was ranked # 11 or 12 would it make a better draw? I say no, who gives a chit, it's Memphis. However what if  10-2 Oklahoma/Bama/ND/Navy/Boise/Baylor/Oregon was ranked #17, any interest in a #10 PSU match up with any of those teams? Hell yeah, any of those would be worth watching IMO. 

Just saying that that once the prize is removed from the outcome, set it up to be a fun regional marque game, hell a 6-5 PSU vs 6-5 Bama would draw high ratings. 

DIII isn't nearly as physically taxing on the body as Division I. DIII is more like High School football than FBS.

That said, it's exactly what an 8 team playoff is, 5 conference champions and 3 wild cards. The only difference between DIII and that is at the FBS level the conferences aren't nearly as balanced as they are in DIII. The Sun Belt has no business acting like the SEC or Big Ten, and most would say they don't deserve a auto bid based on their level of competition conference wide.

If you are in a conference in the FBS then you deserve a seat at the playoff table.

Either figure something out in regards to where to send them (back to the FCS) or stop pretending they conferences are equal. I don't want to see a system where LSU, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and Auburn all fight for one spot while Georgia State, Georgia Southern, and South Alabama fight for another spot on equal footing.

Yeah, it works in basketball because you also take like 5-8 teams from the power conferences on top of conference champions, so no one is really pretending that the Big Sky conference is really "equal" to the ACC. However, in football unless your adding 5+ games only a certain amount of teams get in. 

I get that every once in a while a group of 5 team may be deserving. That's why I like an 8 team playoff with 5 Power Champs, highest ranked Group of 5 champ, and 2 wild cards. IMO that's the best way to do it but obviously you feel different. Not saying you are "wrong", just that I disagree.



   
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