Buh-Bye to college sports as we know it. Other states will be forced to follow suite. If I were a 5* high school kid in the major sports, men’s or women’s, why would I go to any other major university not in California?
the biggest thing I hate about this is that they are forcing the NCAA to change their rules because other pro sports are banning kids from playing.
Think about it, the only reason a kid can't go play pro sports out of high school is because the NBA doesn't allow them to do it. It's not the NCAA forcing a kid into school. I'd rather than the kids go play pro and keep college for amateurs.
Football? Go set up a minor league, or let them play arena football or something. I care less about star players and more about watching my school play. the biggest lie of all of this is that people pack the stadiums to watch the Stars play. No they don't, they watch because of the name on the front of the Jersey, not the one on the back.
There is no turning back. Other states will be following California’s lead. The courts will support this legislation. The salaries of the coaches and athletic directors can not be justified. That is the impetus behind paying athletes
How about this:
1. No scholarships
2. Recruiting is illegal
3. No alumni donations permitted
4. No redshirting of any kind
5. Teams with less than a 4 year graduation rate less than 65% are banned for 4 years.
6. Athlete must pass minimum of 30 credits each year with a 2.0 or better gpa to stay eligible.
7. Maximum of 10 games each year plus a bowl game.
8. Student tickets are free and they have first crack at them.
9. Any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct results in a 3 game suspension. A second offense results in a lifetime ban.
You forgot to add company logos on college uni’s and 5 star running back gets “He Hate Me “ on the back of his jersey in place of his name.
13 year old Jimmy Smith signs for $20 mil on future considerations, though he’s only 3rd string on his jv team.
There is no turning back. Other states will be following California’s lead. The courts will support this legislation. The salaries of the coaches and athletic directors can not be justified. That is the impetus behind paying athletes
How about this:
1. No scholarships
2. Recruiting is illegal
3. No alumni donations permitted
4. No redshirting of any kind
5. Teams with less than a 4 year graduation rate less than 65% are banned for 4 years.
6. Athlete must pass minimum of 30 credits each year with a 2.0 or better gpa to stay eligible.
7. Maximum of 10 games each year plus a bowl game.
8. Student tickets are free and they have first crack at them.
9. Any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct results in a 3 game suspension. A second offense results in a lifetime ban.
If they are professionals and getting paid, why should GPA matter?
And no, that's just the lie everyone is telling themselves to make them feel better about all this. Coaches salaries are mostly being paid by boosters and corporate sponsors, not by the schools themselves. So in actuality the schools are paying very little to the coaches.
Some athletic programs are actually sending money back to the schools academic side. The real reason for this is because football players and basketball players are not allowed to go pro from high school. If they were, no one would care about paying college athletes because they could just go pro if they wanted to.
At that point people would realize that it's not about watching Star players in college, it's about watching your college play. Even if we weren't getting the stars and they were going pro, college football would still be widely viewed
Adding to your comment about basketball high school players going directly to the NBA if allowed, I find it ironic that it was on LeBron James’ show...who was one of the last to be allowed to jump directly to the NBA...that the California legislation was signed.
Not that schools, players, Penn State, the NCAA or anyone else cares, I’m done with FBS sports football and basketball if it goes deeper down this path.
Roam, I’m glad you cleared all that up because I thought the school paid the coaches and you’re right I started liking Penn Stste because of the uniforms. I loved Penn State before I realized who joe paterno was because of at the age of 7 you could care less who the coaches are you pull for a team because of something you like about ‘em Or you was taught. I didn’t teach my youngest son to be a Georgia fan my dad did lol
Adding to your comment about basketball high school players going directly to the NBA if allowed, I find it ironic that it was on LeBron James’ show...who was one of the last to be allowed to jump directly to the NBA...that the California legislation was signed.
Not that schools, players, Penn State, the NCAA or anyone else cares, I’m done with FBS sports football and basketball if it goes deeper down this path.
This really is a farse... The NCAA is set up to give kids academic opportunities they wouldn't otherwise have. If the best athletes want to skip school and play professional sports they do so in other sports all the time...
Yet the NBA players association banned high schoolers from jumping straight to the draft, and now act like the NCAA is somehow complicit in denying them the opportunity to make money. Same goes for football, the NFL is who keeps kids out, not the NCAA. I understand why they do it there, keeping grown men away from teenagers in a full contact sport.
This is not the NCAA's doing, it's all nonsense.
There is no turning back. Other states will be following California’s lead. The courts will support this legislation. The salaries of the coaches and athletic directors can not be justified. That is the impetus behind paying athletes
How about this:
1. No scholarships
2. Recruiting is illegal
3. No alumni donations permitted
4. No redshirting of any kind
5. Teams with less than a 4 year graduation rate less than 65% are banned for 4 years.
6. Athlete must pass minimum of 30 credits each year with a 2.0 or better gpa to stay eligible.
7. Maximum of 10 games each year plus a bowl game.
8. Student tickets are free and they have first crack at them.
9. Any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct results in a 3 game suspension. A second offense results in a lifetime ban.
If they are professionals and getting paid, why should GPA matter?
And no, that's just the lie everyone is telling themselves to make them feel better about all this. Coaches salaries are mostly being paid by boosters and corporate sponsors, not by the schools themselves. So in actuality the schools are paying very little to the coaches.
Some athletic programs are actually sending money back to the schools academic side. The real reason for this is because football players and basketball players are not allowed to go pro from high school. If they were, no one would care about paying college athletes because they could just go pro if they wanted to.
At that point people would realize that it's not about watching Star players in college, it's about watching your college play. Even if we weren't getting the stars and they were going pro, college football would still be widely viewed
I would add:
10. Coaches salary can’t exceed the average salary of high school coaches in that state
11. No spring football
Let’s bring education back into college athletics.
Lots of interesting points so far. I do not have a problem with the CA law, but hate the term “pat for play” as it simply allows a player to capitalize on their likeness. When I was a music major at Dear Old State, many of the cats earned money in the clubs at night. Other students worked in restaurants or other places to earn some extra cheddar. The schools are making big money on these sports so a player making some for an autograph or something is no big deal to me.
I was an athlete in college, and knew many other athletes in multiple sports at Penn State. The notion that kids can't get an education, that practice takes up all there time, and that they are used, abused, and spit out with nothing to show for it is NONSENSE.
This is all being pushed by the stars because they just want money. It has nothing to do with anything else.
All athletes have a choice in school, if you want an education it is there for you. All you need to do is work for it.
I quit watching pro sports about 25 years ago or more. Mostly due to the celebrating nonsense. I will watch the super bowl for the social aspect of it. I'd rather be out biking, hiking, skiing, etc and not watching someone else do it. The exception for me was I liked watching PSU football and to some extent wrestling. If this pay thing goes through, I'll probably give up PSU sports altogether. Not a big deal at this age. I've already given up the home games due to the parking fiasco which their greed created. Since PSU played on Friday this past week, I went to a bike ride on Saturday which was really enjoyable. There will be other things to do and learn. I'm currently on 17 days straight of exercise for more than an hour a day. Maybe that will become my new passion. Who knows.
would add:
10. Coaches salary can’t exceed the average salary of high school coaches in that state
11. No spring football
Let’s bring education back into college athletics.
Or, maybe coaches can't get paid more than the average for faculty at the college... we should have that even if student players don't get paid.
I remember when Steve Spurrier got a million dollar contract back in the 90’s and joe paterno said he was troubled by what coaches are starting to make. He didn’t say why but I’m sure he seen what it would cause later on down the road. I think it was the middle 90’s anyway. It’s way above my pay grade to figure all this stuff out but when coaches are making millions it just don’t look good when you say the kids are getting a free education especially when these kids today think everything is free anyway. All they hear on the news is free this and free that lol. Just let ‘em go pro if they think they can make it.
It was Bobby bowdon not Steve Spurrier, sorry. I looked it up and it was both lol
The one thing I hate about the comparison of how much coaches make to how much players make is this...
Players play 4 years in college, and if they are good enough they go play in the NFL they immediately make a million or more in a league where the minimum is something around $500,000 a year. That's not including the $10 to $15 million signing bonuses the top guys get.
Coaches? They probably scratched and clawed an existence working as student managers, lowly assistants, and made their way up the ladder until they were around 35 years old. That's when they start making the better money. The lucky few like Lincoln Riley get a major bump at that point, but most don't and never see anything like that sort of cash.
So basically I see a bunch of spoiled brats complaining that they can't make millions right away, even though they are getting a scholarship and education. Compare that to coaches who make little to no money for years before ever sniffing anything substantial. There's also plenty of stories like Dabo Swinney's where he had to work at AIG for two years because football wasn't paying the bills.
Players that don't make the NFL get a safety net in the form of a college diploma. They also come out with zero debt and many went to a school they couldn't otherwise have gotten into without football. Coaches, on the other hand, have to move their families around every few years and make table scraps to work their way up the ladder.
So spare me the BS that coaches salaries are so out of wack. Unlike the players going to the NFL, they actually have to scrape and claw for years to make any money.
“So spare me the BS that coaches salaries are so out of wack. Unlike the players going to the NFL, they actually have to scrape and claw for years to make any money.”
9 million dollars is out of wack and that is not BS!
PA just joined that bandwagon. The problem with the law is simple, if a team is supported by nike, that's the only gear that player can promote using their universities name. same goes for all products. this won't fly, ncaa will fight them in courts.
PA just joined that bandwagon. The problem with the law is simple, if a team is supported by nike, that's the only gear that player can promote using their universities name. same goes for all products. this won't fly, ncaa will fight them in courts.
I think the NCAA will cave, just like they do on every major issue.
“So spare me the BS that coaches salaries are so out of wack. Unlike the players going to the NFL, they actually have to scrape and claw for years to make any money.”
9 million dollars is out of wack and that is not BS!
Says you?
Here's a question for you:
What's more out of wack... paying a coach 9 million in a sport that makes money and pays for other sports, or paying a coach $250,000 for a sport that loses money every single year?
