I took a look, and I dont see where we've recruited all these "studs" Southern is talking about.
The highest WR recruit we have had in the past 5 years is Lonnie White Jr, and he never played a snap because he signed with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Only other kid in the top 20 WRs was Kaden Saunders, who is injured right now.
After those two... two more guys who were the 30 to 40th ranked WR in their class. After than, guys ranked 80yh or lower. Those arent studs, sorry.
Ohio State is recruiting WRs in the top 10 YEARLY. Most years they get 2-3 guys ranked ahead of our highest ranked guy. They have studs at WR... we dont.
I think a lot of people see the "4 star" ranking and just think he's a high recruit. Fact is these guys weren't high recruits. The only WR on the roster that was even a top 20 recruit isnt even playing.
Fleming? Yeah he WAS a high recruit when OSU got em. When we got him, he was a mid portal WR transfer not worth much.
They may not have caught the ball but Prubula didn’t have a problem throwing to the WR’s yesterday and he did it in the Wisconsin game as well. I don’t think DA like throwing the ball unless somebody is wide open and ain’t nobody within 10 yards of whoever is the target. WR’s don’t get that luxury.
Pribula threw to backups against backups.They may not have caught the ball but Prubula didn’t have a problem throwing to the WR’s yesterday and he did it in the Wisconsin game as well. I don’t think DA like throwing the ball unless somebody is wide open and ain’t nobody within 10 yards of whoever is the target. WR’s don’t get that luxury.
If you dont think DA likes throwing the ball unless someone is wide open, you're blind. He does it to Warren at least once or twice a game. He completely comfortable throwing a 50/50 ball to someone he trusts. The last time he trusted a WR... the craped their pants and let a TD turn into a INT against Ohio State.
Your narrative that we have studs at WR is complete nonsense. We hardly have top 40 recruits playing WR, those aren't big time recruits
@roaminglion Wisconsin didn’t have backups in and Pribula was 11-13 putting the ball right on the money just like he did in the Purdue game. Homer said last week he watched Oregon and their receivers didn’t get wide open either but the QB put the ball right where it needed to be. I didn’t say all our WR’s are studs, I said he had 4 studs to throw to, Warren, Clifford, Allen, Singleton and Wallace. Oregon and Ohio St would love to have these studs to throw to. Clifford has been nothing but money to throw to all year long when the QB’s have thrown to him. DA is just a QB that doesn’t take chances down field and it shows up on the field. Clifford, McSorely and Pribula all have has success throwing to the WR’s and Pribula does it coming off the bench without much playing time for goodness sakes and the dude rips defenses apart just imagine if this dude got first string snaps in practice like DA has the last 2 years, just saying. DA had a very good game Saturday and I was proud of him because the young man was feeling the heat and he stepped up regardless of who he was throwing to. We might not have the best WR’s in the big 10 but my ass they ain’t good. Pribula is coming off the bench hitting these receivers I stride rather it’s Purdue or Wisconsin. I done seen this same shit show before from James Franklin letting McSorley sit the bench and imo that’s where we are today. Just like with y’all defending Hack y’all doing the same thing with DA because he’s a 5* QB. I can deal with it as long as we win but y’all will see that I’m spot on when Pribula is the starting QB next year.
Y’all need to stop believing 5* hype and believe what your eyes show you on the field. I’m a show me dude and I’ve seen enough.
Pribula did exactly what I stated esrlier against Wisconsin... he scrambled and found WRs. I specifically stated in my post that many of the WR recptions on the year, regardless of who throws it, were when the QB scrambles.Y’all need to stop believing 5* hype and believe what your eyes show you on the field. I’m a show me dude and I’ve seen enough.
Go watch the Wisky game again, Pribula wasn't hitting WRs on timing throws. He was scrambling because they needed extra time to get open. As I stated in my post, it's a problem when that's the only way you can get WRs the ball.
Allar did the same thing in the 2nd half against USC as Pribula did against Wisky in the 2nd half. Yet all you see is Pribula.
@southern-psu-fan Also, here is proof you are just being biased. You said Allar has trouble throwing to WRs and Pribula doesn't... and the Wisky game is proof.
Allar had 150 yards passing against Wisky and completed 5 passes to WRs in the game.
Pribula? 96 yards passing and completed 5 passes to WRs in the game. THE SAME AMOUNT OF COMPLETIONS TO WRS.
Yet you are here saying Allar can't throw to WRs and Pribula can. All you see is Pribula, it's obvious you just plain don't like Allar and give him zero credit. Somehow throwing for less yards and completing the same amount of passes to WRs means Pribula is better and knows how to involve the WRs? LMAO.
@roaminglion I don’t not like any Penn St players I pull for whoever starts because I’m all about winning football games. It’s just my opinion Pribula is better for the offense.
But the reasons you gave don't hold up. You're saying Pribula throws to the WRs better than Allar, gave the Wisky game as proof, yet they both threw to the WRs the same amount in the game. Allar also had more yards.@roaminglion I don’t not like any Penn St players I pull for whoever starts because I’m all about winning football games. It’s just my opinion Pribula is better for the offense.
You say you don't hate him, yet say things like "he doesn't throw it unless they are wide open" which is blantantly false.
Just because a receiver isn’t open when Allar looks his direction doesn’t mean there wasn’t an opportunity to throw the ball that receivers direction the entire route. Just like it was obvious to everyone watching that he should have thrown the balll a lot sooner to the wr that was wide open for the TD. Allar is afraid to trust his alleged star abilities to throw the ball into a tight window.
We were losing at Wisconsin until Pribula come in and probably saved the day. You will see what I’m seeing next year when our offense is dominating the big 10.
Again, complete revisionist history. After Pribula entered we punted twice and scored a defensive touchdown to take the lead. Pribula didn't lead the offense to a TD until we were already winning.We were losing at Wisconsin until Pribula come in and probably saved the day. You will see what I’m seeing next year when our offense is dominating the big 10.
Try saying something factually correct next time.
I personally believe that Pribula is a better fit for this offensive scheme...I also personally believe that Allar is the better QB...Here is where I get on the coaches...As a coach it is your job to put the personnel you have in the best possible position to succeed...IF your WR's are struggling to get open you use motion and formations to help them create separation...If your QB isn't quite as mobile as your system requires you change your system to fit your QB's strengths...I give the current OC a C+ grade...He is better than the last guy but he could do a lot more to help these guys out to be more explosive...There are only 20 top WR's in a class...so 20 teams get 1 or even less teams get 1 if a team gets 2 or 3 of them...I am sure if you land a top 100 WR in a class they should have the ability to get open...It's up the coaching staff to put them in positions to get open...Does Penn State have a dynamic All American WR on the team...No...How many teams do? I am not buying the WR's can't get open argument...My issues with the OC are he isn't using the RB's enough out of the backfield and I am specifically sighting Singleton here...They have the best TE in the country who is pulling double teams which is tying up a safety and either a backer or a corner which should open up things significantly...I can tell ya one thing and that is 2 FG's from the offense in a game is unacceptable and I lay that at the feet of the coaching staff...This team has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball to beat anybody...Think about what that coach from Indiana could do with this talent...He is competing with 18 transfers from James Madison for God sake and they can get open...Penn State is fortunate to have 2 excellent QB's and they should be doing much better with the talent they have on this team...
@the-funeral-director pretty much what I see about the WR’s. We never had a WR problem. Clifford, Singleton, Wallace, Allen and Warren is plenty of studs to throw to. Did you see the 2 throws from Pribula in the Purdue game the ball was thrown perfectly but of course we didn’t catch the ball but the ball was there. These 5 dudes would start on 95% of the teams out there.
Well we disagree on who the better passer is...Allar is in the conversation as being the best arm talent in college football right now and I would argue that he is the best arm talent in college football right now...Pribula is a fine passer but he ain't on the level of Allar...Pribula is a running QB who can throw the ball...Allar is an elite arm talent who is serviceable with his legs...My argument here is that there is plenty of talent on this offense where they should be able to pump in 30 pts. on anybody...That they struggle to put up points to me is on the coaching staff...They need to be better...That is all I am saying...
@the-funeral-director I never said Pribula had the better arm, I said Pribula is the best QB for our offense.
Again...I think Allar is the better QB...THEREFOR it is incumbent on the coaching staff to implement a system that accentuates his strengths...Why are they trying to hammer a square peg through a round hole? That is my criticism of this OC...
@the-funeral-director maybe they’ve done the best that they can do and what you see is what you get something else I’ve been saying. What you see from DA is what you get this is his 3rd year. Pribula keeps getting better every time he hits the field and he will be the starter next year regardless if DA goes to the NFL or not.
No it isn't what you see is what you get...That is the issue...This coaching staff is failing these players in my opinion...Allar is your starter...You set your offense around his skill set...Which is throwing the ball...You use bunch sets, motion and formations to assist the WR's to get open...They set these WR's out wide and tell them to beat coverage...I will agree with Roam on this point...They don't have a go to #1 WR on the roster...But they do have a bunch of #2 WR's who are more than capable of getting open...In this offense your TE is your #1 WR who will draw the double teams so he acts as your #1...In many respects this makes it easier on you to dictate formations and motion to free up your WR's to get open because your TE is drawing all the attention as well as your 2 all world RB's...The best coach I have ever seen at doing this was Spurrier...Coaches can make all americans out of very good players and turn all americans into average players...
Motion and formations doesn't magically create separation and open receivers. Because... here's the thing... there's a DC on the other team who's job it is to coordinate the defense. They see and scheme against those things. If it was that easy, MAC and Sun Belt schools would be beating Big Ten and SEC teams all the time.IF your WR's are struggling to get open you use motion and formations to help them create separation...
At some point you need players who can get open. Warren doesn't need schemes or special treatment... he knows how to separate
Of course there are DC's trying to stop you...As a DC it is a heck of a lot easier to stop a team that is lining up WR's wide and expecting them to beat your coverage as apposed to lining up in a bunch formation and using motion to rub defenders off to gain separation...There are many factors as to why a MAC or Sun Belt school struggle...Personnel depth is the main factor...Every MAC or Sun Belt team has a handful of players who would play and compete in the B1G or SEC...The difference is they don't have 11 of em on each side of the ball...As far as Warren is concerned he is the best TE in the country and is drawing double teams...That makes it even easier to break loose your WR's through motion and formation...Penn State has enough talent in the WR room where they should be able to get guys open...
I can remember last season when people on this forum were almost unanimously claiming that Allar is too safe with the ball and afraid to take chances and that it was most likely a coaching issue. I can also remember many instances while sitting in the stands of receivers being open and Allar not seeing them and then a simultaneous moan by 3/4 of the stadium. Like I’ve said before then kid is talented but there is definitely something missing from his game and it will be interesting to see how it translates once he goes to the NFL.
I mean, what team are you watching then? Our OC has the most motion and unique formations in college football. WRs still arent getting open more often than not.Of course there are DC's trying to stop you...As a DC it is a heck of a lot easier to stop a team that is lining up WR's wide and expecting them to beat your coverage as apposed to lining up in a bunch formation and using motion to rub defenders off to gain separation...There are many factors as to why a MAC or Sun Belt school struggle...Personnel depth is the main factor...Every MAC or Sun Belt team has a handful of players who would play and compete in the B1G or SEC...The difference is they don't have 11 of em on each side of the ball...As far as Warren is concerned he is the best TE in the country and is drawing double teams...That makes it even easier to break loose your WR's through motion and formation...Penn State has enough talent in the WR room where they should be able to get guys open...
Yes... and Allar is MUCH better this year. He went from a 6 yard per pass average to now in the top 5 of all college football. He's top 5 in completion percentage, QB rating, and yards per attempt.I can remember last season when people on this forum were almost unanimously claiming that Allar is too safe with the ball and afraid to take chances and that it was most likely a coaching issue. I can also remember many instances while sitting in the stands of receivers being open and Allar not seeing them and then a simultaneous moan by 3/4 of the stadium. Like I’ve said before then kid is talented but there is definitely something missing from his game and it will be interesting to see how it translates once he goes to the NFL.
At what point do people give him credit? Does he have to lead the NCAA in yards for people to see he's much better and a different QB this year?
