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(@psualum95)
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Sorry ... Kooper ... with a K.  Weird.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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@psualum95 that’s more reason to pay Amari Cambell a player that MC and Danton Lynn didn’t think they needed and MC and Danton Lynn are who brought these dudes in so them 2 can look in the mirror if things aren’t getting done up front. The great Weyman Sellers would say..There is no excuse!

MC deserves time but all this shit is on his shoulders he brought his players in and told a few studs that they weren’t needed and here we are with the results. We still have 7 games left so let’s see how this finishes out.

Welcome to the forum brother!


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(@roaminglion)
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@roaminglion MC and Danton Lynn are who got these guys.

FFS it's like you're blind or just completely willfully ignorant of the fact PSU was radioactive after a botched coaching search that crushed our recruiting class, had multiple kids leave to follow coaches and/or money, and had somethibg lik 50+ spots to fill.

Like sure, okay super easy to just go find a 5* kid. My freaking lord

 



   
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(@roaminglion)
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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan
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@psualum95 that’s more reason to pay Amari Cambell a player that MC and Danton Lynn didn’t think they needed and MC and Danton Lynn are who brought these dudes in so them 2 can look in the mirror if things aren’t getting done up front. The great Weyman Sellers would say..There is no excuse!

MC deserves time but all this shit is on his shoulders he brought his players in and told a few studs that they weren’t needed and here we are with the results. We still have 7 games left so let’s see how this finishes out.

Welcome to the forum brother!

Just a question... do you really think a linebacker is why our defense stinks? A linebacker that has done nothing special at Tennesee and only makes 700k there? Remember also he was someone who had transferred via the portal before as well.

Yet you think he is sone loyal superstar who would have stayed only if? A linebacker who you complained about all last season when yeams were running all over us once Rojas went down? That guy?


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@roaminglion players left because MC told them their services wasn’t needed. He wanted his guys and he got ‘em. It’s not a coincidence that he brought 24 guys from Iowa St he thought he could win with them and it’s bit him in the ass.



   
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@roaminglion players left because MC told them their services wasn’t needed. He wanted his guys and he got ‘em. It’s not a coincidence that he brought 24 guys from Iowa St he thought he could win with them and it’s bit him in the ass.

Sure thing, whatever you say. Nothing to prove it but hey, why not just say Matt Campbell could have kept them all if he only wanted to?

Amazing how many new coaches lose a ton of players when their previous coaches take them with them... when all they have to do is want them to stay! I guess the new Iowa State coach wanted those guys to leave too!

 


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@roaminglion that was year before when king was gettin killed not Amari Cambell. I don’t ever remember saying Amari Cambell got run over unless it was a play or 2 I always thought very high on him. All players get run over sometimes.


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@roaminglion Grunk got in the portal adter he found out MC was bringing Rocco



   
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@roaminglion Grunk got in the portal adter he found out MC was bringing Rocco

I f Grunk would have stayed, I think he beats out Rocco. Now if MC wanted to play the JF game and flat out stick with RB, then Grunk has a decision to make and maybe he made the decision before it had a chance to play out. Maybe it would have made it easier for MC to sit RB if Grunk stayed and showed his ass up???

 



   
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(@psujoe)
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@mtnittanylion 

Unlike you I go by results on the field not fantasy BS  and don’t get all giddy over big wins  vs  Boofalo. You’re one of the few people on the internet talking about the great players PSU has and there is certainly zero experts saying it anywhere. 
Nor am I gullible enough to predict 11-1 or 12-0 every season.


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@roaminglion Grunk got in the portal adter he found out MC was bringing Rocco

and coincidentally went to where his head coach landed. Amazing coincidence!

Oh... and the fact that Grunk entered the portal on the 1st and Becht didn't commit until the 4th. So unless you are accusing MC of tampering, the statement Grunk knew Becht was getting the starting job is complete BS


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@roaminglion  you know better. Grunk was told by MC he’s bring his 2 QB’s with him. You can take that to the bank. Absolutely after the Penn St guys were told what was going down they called JF.


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@psualum95 It's already a long season....



   
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I f Grunk would have stayed, I think he beats out Rocco. Now if MC wanted to play the JF game and flat out stick with RB, then Grunk has a decision to make and maybe he made the decision before it had a chance to play out. Maybe it would have made it easier for MC to sit RB if Grunk stayed and showed his ass up???

I believe we all wanted Grunk to stay and fight it out on the field and let the best man win and under the old way of recruiting he probably would have but I’m just thinking MC told Grunk we want you but you can probably make more money somewhere else which was the right thing to do I’m not throwing stones at MC for that because I thought what MC was doing was going to work as well. Amari Cambell is different because these dudes should be able to watch the film and see that #8 and also Caleb are not on the same level as Amari Cambell and it ain’t even close to being on the same level this was a total Fudge up on MC and Danton Lynn and it also tells me they might struggle in recruiting defensive players if they both screwed this up this bad. USC defense is garbage and our defense stinks as well connect the dots. Amari Cambell has 39 tackles this year and Rojas has 43 and Amari Cambell has played better teams both these dudes running around on the field would make a huge difference regardless of how bad the defensive line is especially against teams like NW and Wisconsin I’ll give Ohio State or Indiana but the teams we are gettin killed by wouldn’t be happening.


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@been-there-ii  My brother this is when you hunker down and really support the team we have 7 games left and a chance to still win 10 games. homer said it was to quite in here so I thought I would get everybody all riled up 😂 We all love Penn St football baby win or lose it’s just a tad better when your winning 😂



   
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(@psumark)
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@southern-psu-fan   It worked !!!



   
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I f Grunk would have stayed, I think he beats out Rocco. Now if MC wanted to play the JF game and flat out stick with RB, then Grunk has a decision to make and maybe he made the decision before it had a chance to play out. Maybe it would have made it easier for MC to sit RB if Grunk stayed and showed his ass up???

I believe we all wanted Grunk to stay and fight it out on the field and let the best man win and under the old way of recruiting he probably would have but I’m just thinking MC told Grunk we want you but you can probably make more money somewhere else which was the right thing to do I’m not throwing stones at MC for that because I thought what MC was doing was going to work as well. Amari Cambell is different because these dudes should be able to watch the film and see that #8 and also Caleb are not on the same level as Amari Cambell and it ain’t even close to being on the same level this was a total Fudge up on MC and Danton Lynn and it also tells me they might struggle in recruiting defensive players if they both screwed this up this bad. USC defense is garbage and our defense stinks as well connect the dots. Amari Cambell has 39 tackles this year and Rojas has 43 and Amari Cambell has played better teams both these dudes running around on the field would make a huge difference regardless of how bad the defensive line is especially against teams like NW and Wisconsin I’ll give Ohio State or Indiana but the teams we are gettin killed by wouldn’t be happening.

All we can hope is that MC has learned his lesson about bringing these "under the radar" or "hidden gem" players into the B1G and realizes they just aren't good enough and were mostly unrecruited by other teams for a reason. If he hasn't learned his lesson he won't be at PSU for long.

We don't need anymore players like Ebel , Cooper , Neal, Patton ,  Riker , Becht or Buhr etc on our roster.

 


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@roaminglion  you know better. Grunk was told by MC he’s bring his 2 QB’s with him. You can take that to the bank. Absolutely after the Penn St guys were told what was going down they called JF.

Right, a coach who everyone says does things the right way told Grunk about 2 Iowa State QBs coming to PSU 3 days before they committed 

 



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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@roaminglion I believe MC handled everything with Grunk the way it should’ve been handled. IMO if MC didn’t bring his QB’s Grunk would be the starting QB at Penn St. if he didn’t think he needed Amari Cambell I’m telling you he felt the same way about Grunk. He was wrong on both players and it’s cost us at least 2 wins, maybe all 3 games we win.


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I don't know all the details, so I'm going to give Matt Campbell the benefit of the doubt here.  I agree that Pat Kraft's dumbass clusterf#@$ of a search put MC way behind the 8-ball for grabbing players.  HS recruits all bailed, PSU's best players went with Franklin, and portal had fatties from UCLA left.  James Peoples was the only good transfer we got, and it is clear that not ALL THREE RBs suck ... it is the left side of the OLine.  What burns my azz is Kraft and Hollywood Jimmy Franks ... if JF had a modicum of class or love for PSU, he would not have raided our cupboard before he left ... he only loves HIMSELF.

Moving forward ... there is no easy fix.  Matt Campbell is a good football coach ... reminiscent of the greatest that ever did it ... Joe Pa.  I don't see PSU ponying up Miami money to fix things immediately.  We can only hope that MC can lock down the east in recruiting, get 4 and 5 star guys, and build us up in 2-3 years.  That remains to be seen, but until then, we've got a long road to hoe.

P.S.  Hopefully Congress saves us and puts a cap on spending.  Pennsylvania is a demographic in population decline and the coal town studs are less than they were in Joe's days.  We are never gonna have oil baron money.  🙁  Fans and X's and O's only go so far.  Need the Jimmy's and Joe's!!  More Abdul Carter and Tony Rojas ... less Kooper (with a K) Ebel.  How creative his parents were. 



   
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One other thing ... Joe understood that PSU isn't going to compete with the Southern schools by doing the SAME THING that they do.  Hence the old bare Beaver Stadium, the Black Shoes, the no Names, the Success with Honor, moving RBs to LBs, focusing on defense and punting, etc., etc.  It was boring football, but it WORKED.  Since Joe left, the only thing that has PSU relevant, I'm broken hearted to say, is our huge loyal fan base and the white out spectacle.  How many stud recruits really would have come and play for slick Hollywood Jimmy Franks if we didn't have the best atmosphere in college football ... which we do.

I get the money on the stadium upgrade ... we need to keep the one thing we have going.  Now, Matt Campbell needs to combine that with a philosophy that is DIFFERENT ... whatever that is.  As PSU fans, hopefully it is one of hard-nosed, hit-em-in-the-mouth football.  The opposite of our OL left side, or DL, and Kooper Ebel.  Bench that GUY!!!  He is the worst LB I've seen at PSU since ... well, I was born 52 years ago.



   
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(@psualum95)
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PSU is never going to be a 'cradle of Quarterbacks' ... My vote is to get back to RB and LBU with STUD lines...  Basically the Michigan game plan from 2 years ago without the cheating.



   
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Right, a coach who everyone says does things the right way told Grunk about 2 Iowa State QBs coming to PSU 3 days before they committed 

I don’t have any connections it’s just my opinion on what I hear and read, you could be right.


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Right, a coach who everyone says does things the right way told Grunk about 2 Iowa State QBs coming to PSU 3 days before they committed 

I don’t have any connections it’s just my opinion on what I hear and read, you could be right.

What you hear and read are podcast rumor mongers who want something to talk about, so they make crap up or theorize what happened. They don't know any more than you or I do.

All they want is to wrap everything up in a nice simple explanation for why some kid left, something simple so they can point a finger at someone when things go wrong.

When have most people ever made any decisions in their lives just based on money? nothing else? Yeah those are called prostitutes... and so many fans just want to claim every one of these kids is just out for money, nothing else... If we just offered them a lot of it, well they'd just lay down like a good little wh*re and stay.

I'd like to believe that these kids reasons for staying and going are much more complicated than just that, and not just assume every one of them only wants money and nothing else.

 


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