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(@roaminglion)
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Anyone read this?  At first it sounds like a throw away rumor, but if conferences are going to 16 it makes a lot of sense. Timing really works out too, though I'd expect the SEC would probably fight the Big Ten for the two schools. Same with the Pac-12, but I don't think either school would want to go to the Pac-12 anyway.

https://247sports.com/college/oklahoma/Article/Big-Ten-targeting-Oklahoma-Sooners-Texas-Longhorns-125965141/



   
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Conferences are to big. Need to get 10 team conferences so all the teams can play each other and get a true playoff because I’m sick of all the opinions of the scam committee. I want control out of everybody’s hands and let it be settles on the field. The PAC 10 did it the right way a few years back where all teams played each other. Would they be enough teams to have 8 good conferences? These conferences championship games are becoming a joke and people are losing interest so they better get this crap fixed and fast.


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If  & when the ncaa gets it right, you might as well twiddle your thumbs for 10 years because that's how long it will take for mark emmert (small letters for a small man) & his band of low lifes to do anything that makes any sense.



   
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Exactly right all them scumbags care about is money. 



   
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Let’s get UCF!



   
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Posted by: roaminglion

I'd expect the SEC would probably fight the Big Ten for the two schools.

Texas absolutely will not go to the SEC.  Primarily because of its weak academics, but also because they would never follow A&M.  UT will be VERY attracted by the Big 10's academic reputation.  OU could be another story.  I would expect them to stick together with UT, but they could thrive in the modern SEC.

But really, they don't have much reason to leave the Big 12.  It's a good geographic fit, they make plenty of money, they can get to the playoff from there, and they get to call the shots.  The last part is something they'd lose in the B1G or SEC.



   
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Posted by: Mean Green Lion
Posted by: roaminglion

I'd expect the SEC would probably fight the Big Ten for the two schools.

Texas absolutely will not go to the SEC.  Primarily because of its weak academics, but also because they would never follow A&M.  UT will be VERY attracted by the Big 10's academic reputation.  OU could be another story.  I would expect them to stick together with UT, but they could thrive in the modern SEC.

But really, they don't have much reason to leave the Big 12.  It's a good geographic fit, they make plenty of money, they can get to the playoff from there, and they get to call the shots.  The last part is something they'd lose in the B1G or SEC.

I think the issue would be that if Texas and OU don't leave, the Big Ten and SEC would probably raid the Big 12 for some other schools. That would leave OU and UT in a broken conference.

Kansas, while not a football power is an AAU school and basketball power. I could see them bolting for the Big Ten. A&M left for the SEC, so who is to know if Oklahoma State doesn't do the same thing and leave it's rival OU for another conference.

My point being that Texas and OU might not have a choice, they might have to leave or see their conference crumble around them.



   
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That's all true, Roam.  That said, schools have only bolted the B12 in the past when the threat of UT and OU leaving seemed imminent.  News got out that UT and OU were flirting with the PAC, so schools like Mizzou and Colorado jumped off what they saw as a sinking ship.

Nebraska was a little different story--they remained bitter against UT for their insistence on raising academic standards when the B12 was formed, which destroyed Nebraska's recruiting base.  But even they didn't leave until the UT and OU to PAC thing.  Same with A&M.

Okie State is pretty joined at the hip with OU, and doesn't bring much value to a conference without their big brother.

KU leaving?  That could start the dominoes falling.  But even with their solid academics and elite hoops program, does the B1G really want another terrible football team in the West division, not to mention geographic outlier?



   
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But Kansas wouldn't be a geographic outlier, they would immediately be the closest school to Nebraska and Iowa. They actually fit into the conference blueprint perfectly.  They would also bring a major new media market with them: Kansas City.

Not saying I'd really want them, but they aren't an outlier for the spot. Geographically the other FBS universities that would make sense and are also AAU Universities (Big Ten likes that membership) are Missouri, Iowa State, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Virginia. UVA and Pitt are locked into the ACC, Missouri is locked into the SEC, so the only real "available" AAU universities that are geographically sound would be Buffalo and Iowa State. Just saying...



   
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Posted by: roaminglion

But Kansas wouldn't be a geographic outlier, they would immediately be the closest school to Nebraska and Iowa. They actually fit into the conference blueprint perfectly.  

Nebraska is already an outlier.  KU would become our furthest southwest school, which is pretty much the definition of an outlier.

Geographically the other FBS universities that would make sense and are also AAU Universities (Big Ten likes that membership) are Missouri, Iowa State, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Virginia. UVA and Pitt are locked into the ACC, Missouri is locked into the SEC, so the only real "available" AAU universities that are geographically sound would be Buffalo and Iowa State. 

I agree with your last sentence.  If the B1G wanted Mizzou, they could have had them 7 years ago.  They were begging to get in, they thought they were in, then the B1G turned them down.  Any of the other choices mentioned are inferior to Mizzou.  Although they are pretty much all better than Rutgers.



   
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The definition of outlier is not the last, but something so far away that it doesn't make sense or go with anything else. West Virginia in the Big 12... that's an outlier. No where near anyone. Texas would be an outlier.

Kansas isn't. They woukd be within an 8 hour drive of Chicago... closer than Penn State is. Illinois 6 hours. Minnesota 6 hours. Nebraska 3 hours. Iowa 5. They fit in nicely.

Maryland, Rutgers, and even Penn State are farther from the rest of the Eastern Division than Kansas is from the West.

Regardless, we don't want Kansas anyway LMAO



   
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The BIG needs to absorb ND and then pick up Iowa State, those two fit geographically and academically. Otherwise suck up Syracuse, Cincinnati, Kansas, TX, OK, or OK St in some combination. 



   
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Posted by: PSU61

The BIG needs to absorb ND and then pick up Iowa State, those two fit geographically and academically. Otherwise suck up Syracuse, Cincinnati, Kansas, TX, OK, or OK St in some combination. 

Those two certainly make the most sense



   
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