The dudes on ESPN has us in the Rose 🌹 Bowl. I agree because I just don’t see Wisconsin having a chance against Ohio st. Ohio st wins the game as bad as they want to.
If Georgia knocks off LSU will LSU still get in the playoffs?  If so I guess the PAC and big 12 champ gets the shaft? It just ain’t right, we need something else like really bad lol
If that is the case, it’s either Utah or Oregon ( my bias is Utah). Either way, both scare me, I’d hate to see another Kentucky disaster.
If that is the case, it’s either Utah or Oregon ( my bias is Utah). Either way, both scare me, I’d hate to see another Kentucky disaster.
It can't be Utah unless Oklahoma or Baylor blows out the other. Utah gets into the CFP with a win, they don't get the Rose if they lose.
If that is the case, it’s either Utah or Oregon ( my bias is Utah). Either way, both scare me, I’d hate to see another Kentucky disaster.
It can't be Utah unless Oklahoma or Baylor blows out the other. Utah gets into the CFP with a win, they don't get the Rose if they lose.
If Georgia beats LSU (which I hope for continued talk of expanded playoffs) I don’t see LSU being jumped by any of those teams
If that is the case, it’s either Utah or Oregon ( my bias is Utah). Either way, both scare me, I’d hate to see another Kentucky disaster.
It can't be Utah unless Oklahoma or Baylor blows out the other. Utah gets into the CFP with a win, they don't get the Rose if they lose.
If Georgia beats LSU (which I hope for continued talk of expanded playoffs) I don’t see LSU being jumped by any of those teams
True, I was arguing as if Clemson, OSU, and LSU win.
Since the inception of the CFP, has the best team in the country ever been denied entry?  There has been 5’s & 6’s that may have been more worthy than a 4, but none of those teams would have won.  Adding to the tournament could have the unlikely affect of minimizing the regular season a bit and almost certainly ending the bowl season as it has been known.Â
I just don’t think the format will change.Â
Every game would still matter since they would be taking best record from each conference... Â
I don’t care what system they come up with as long as all the power 5 conference champs are in the playoffs. Winning the conference championship should be special and it should be the number 1 goal when the season starts. We have to keep the love for the regular season important. I don’t believe any team should get rewarded if they lose the last regular season game unless they still can win the conference.
Like you said nitnation, every game should mean something.
I agree with it needs to be the best of each conference... but winning the conference is not really a true measure of the best. You could end up with a team that is 7-4 wining the conference championship, that is not the best team in the conference. Best conference record should get in, now I will say most conference champs will have the best record but not always.
I agree with it needs to be the best of each conference... but winning the conference is not really a true measure of the best. You could end up with a team that is 7-4 wining the conference championship, that is not the best team in the conference. Best conference record should get in, now I will say most conference champs will have the best record but not always.
Whatever is the goal to win, that team is the best. If the goal is best record, than the best record wins. However, if the expectations are set in the beginning and the goal is to win the conference championship... then that team is best. They are the ones who achieved the goal.
This is why I think 8 is good, it puts the 5 in who achieved the goal of winning the Power 5 conferences, but then also leaves room for some subjectivity with two wild cards and a Group of 5 team. IMO it's the best of both worlds (Championships & Eye Test)Â
Yeah the goal should be to win the conference championship and 9 x out of 10 that will be the best team but a 7-2 team in conference would not be the best team even if the won conference championship over a 9-0 team. Can't just say conference champs are the best in every case.
All and all I would rather have what you suggest... In a perfect world I would rather it be run like Div II and crown a real NCAA champ.
I don't think it minimizes the regular season by expanding the number in the playoff, what it should do is have an impact on the seedings. Case could be made that once you get into 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5, those could be some damn good match ups that actually strengthen the whole process overall. And Power Five isn't guaranteed a spot 1-5, but could easily be an 8 depending on record/strength of schedule as compared to non-power five if a criteria is conference champ out of power 5 and then others. Â
This discussion you all are having is exactly why I'm in favor of a huge conference realignment. 8 Conferences of 10 teams. Each team plays everyone within their conference - so even if the records are tied at the end of the year, there will be a head to head tie breaker. No more conference championship games between a North Division vs South Division. You play 9 conference games, and 3 OOC games - win that conference, you are in the playoffs ... period!
This discussion you all are having is exactly why I'm in favor of a huge conference realignment. 8 Conferences of 10 teams. Each team plays everyone within their conference - so even if the records are tied at the end of the year, there will be a head to head tie breaker. No more conference championship games between a North Division vs South Division. You play 9 conference games, and 3 OOC games - win that conference, you are in the playoffs ... period!
What happens in a 3-way tie. No head to head
Unfortunately educational goals no longer are the primary focus of major college football. It’s  all about money, which most ends up in the pockets of coaches and athletic directors. With the advent of players being paid for their image, many players will spend more time negotiating deals than in the library. What has this world come to?
Unfortunately educational goals no longer are the primary focus of major college football. It’s  all about money, which most ends up in the pockets of coaches and athletic directors. With the advent of players being paid for their image, many players will spend more time negotiating deals than in the library. What has this world come to?
Yes, because in the 70s and 80s college football was all about education. LMAO
Unfortunately educational goals no longer are the primary focus of major college football. It’s  all about money, which most ends up in the pockets of coaches and athletic directors. With the advent of players being paid for their image, many players will spend more time negotiating deals than in the library. What has this world come to?
Yes, because in the 70s and 80s college football was all about education. LMAO
More so than today, Roam. Less distractions!
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Unfortunately educational goals no longer are the primary focus of major college football. It’s  all about money, which most ends up in the pockets of coaches and athletic directors. With the advent of players being paid for their image, many players will spend more time negotiating deals than in the library. What has this world come to?
Yes, because in the 70s and 80s college football was all about education. LMAO
More so than today, Roam. Less distractions!
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I disagree, I'd say it was less about education back then. Point me to the players today that can not even read like Dexter Manley? Corruption was widespread back then, but social media and the internet wasn't around so you really didn't hear about it.
There's a reason the NCAA came up with the graduation rate standard, and it's not because the 70s and 80s were about education. Quite the contrary, they knew it was out of control and had to put some academic standards in place.
I believe the era of the 1980's in college football is called "The era of Excess". The Atlantic wrote about it recently as the decade where college football outgrew the rules. Oklahoma, Miami, SMU... etc. etc. etc. These schools didn't give one iota about education.
Unfortunately educational goals no longer are the primary focus of major college football. It’s  all about money, which most ends up in the pockets of coaches and athletic directors. With the advent of players being paid for their image, many players will spend more time negotiating deals than in the library. What has this world come to?
Yes, because in the 70s and 80s college football was all about education. LMAO
More so than today, Roam. Less distractions!
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I disagree, I'd say it was less about education back then. Point me to the players today that can not even read like Dexter Manley? Corruption was widespread back then, but social media and the internet wasn't around so you really didn't hear about it.
There's a reason the NCAA came up with the graduation rate standard, and it's not because the 70s and 80s were about education. Quite the contrary, they knew it was out of control and had to put some academic standards in place.
I believe the era of the 1980's in college football is called "The era of Excess". The Atlantic wrote about it recently as the decade where college football outgrew the rules. Oklahoma, Miami, SMU... etc. etc. etc. These schools didn't give one iota about education.
Sorry Roam, I misunderstood. I thought we were talking only about PSU. I don't know enough about other places so I'll concede the point to you. I just know that under Paterno, academics were always the priority
This discussion you all are having is exactly why I'm in favor of a huge conference realignment. 8 Conferences of 10 teams. Each team plays everyone within their conference - so even if the records are tied at the end of the year, there will be a head to head tie breaker. No more conference championship games between a North Division vs South Division. You play 9 conference games, and 3 OOC games - win that conference, you are in the playoffs ... period!
What happens in a 3-way tie. No head to head
Better yet Roam, 12 team conferences ... play 11 conference games and 1 OOC. I guess a 3 way tie is mathematically possible, but the chances are slim. Strength of schedule could be factored in, or possibly have away wins count slightly higher in an effort to break this unlikely tie.
