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1.  Why does any NCAA football team need 105 players?  Wouldn't 70 be sufficient and reduce overall costs?

2.  Why does any college support 30 NCAA Intercollegiate teams?  Many could be intramural.

3.  How does OSU call their offensive plays? Sayin does not wear a wrist chart and the plays he calls seem to take a short time in the huddle.

 

   Just bored of the coach search.



   
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According to what I’m hearing on here there’s so much money that people have it’s nothing to buy out 20 million dollar buyout clauses and it’s chump change and I agree with FD 100% on this but this tells also tells me another thing, I’m paying to much in taxes and whoever can pay this kind of money ain’t paying enough 😂 I’m gone sic mondomi on all New Yorkers baby they ain’t paying their fair share in taxes lol


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I have no clue brawnale but I believe some are women’s sports. I hope they don’t cut out women’s sports to just foot the bill for football and basketball. I don’t know how all this will end with no salary cap because it’s a bubble that will bust. Even the NFL has a salary cap. Seems to me you have to have all teams playing by the same rules and money or it’s no different than before because some teams have more money.


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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan

I have no clue brawnale but I believe some are women’s sports. I hope they don’t cut out women’s sports to just foot the bill for football and basketball. I don’t know how all this will end with no salary cap because it’s a bubble that will bust. Even the NFL has a salary cap. Seems to me you have to have all teams playing by the same rules and money or it’s no different than before because some teams have more money.

They can't cut out women’s sports, Title IX dictates women have to have the same amount of scholarships as men. Due to football being men only, that usually means women get more scholarships in the other sports than men.

 


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number 2: Intramural means playing between students at the same school. I think you probably meant club teams.



   
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@roaminglion I’m glad to hear that roam thanks for that information.



   
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@roaminglion 

How about with NIL & pay-for-play, they eliminate scholarships.  That solves the Title IX problem!



   
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The problem with that is that most of the players are getting no NIL money. The money goes to the same folks that are likely to makes the pros.



   
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@psugrad81 help me here 81. If my job can pay all the workers the same amount of money to drive a truck why can’t schools pay all the players the same amount of money?



   
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Because you are being paid based on a linear relationship of time and distance in relation to goods you hauled and profit margin. You're not being paid to sit on the bench and being available, unless you want to consider on-call pay. 



   
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@southern-psu-fan All your drivers have the same job, should be about the same pay, once past probationary period.

Not saying ball players can't share the love, but every position has a different set of skills. Pay the guys sitting on the bench too? Fine guys that have penalty flags thrown at them? Bonus for the guys that have a great play?



   
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This is the sad thing, pay for performance vs qualified.

 

I am qualified to play in the NBA even though I am a short, old, balding white guy that can't jump.  So when people start arguing that they need hired because they are a minority and qualified I laugh.  I laugh when our Womens Soccer team or WNBA thinks they should get paid the same as the men.  1) the business is entertainment and you are not watched.  2) A good HS Boys team can beat you, definitely a men's college team so it is not about performance is it?

 

So we have 'pay relative to performance or perceived performance' or pay for showing up/minimum performance.  Either the market decides or the law/outside influences decide.  Don't get me started on the military and the double standard for physical skills.

Sadder yet is the NIL pendulum is way to one side.  Don't need to perform as there seems to be limited control in the contracts.  Opt out of bowl games?

 

Ever wonder why truck drivers drive the speed limit in the passing lane?  They get incentivized to take care of those trucks via computers that measure them constantly.  Speed = Safety, MPG=$, RPM=Maintenance $


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You made me laugh hysterically Underlion...I got into it with a group of people the other day about women's basketball...I told these people you could pick your 10 best women players and put them up against an average high school boys basketball team and they would get beat by 20 points...They were outraged at how I could say such a thing...I shared a story with them...When I was a freshman in high school they let the freshman team play the varsity girls team...They had a great team...Their star player played at Temple and was an all american...They busted our balls all day at school that we were going to get embarrassed by a bunch of girls...So I guarded the girl that went to temple...I picked her pocket 10 times in a row before she got the ball to half court and they called time out and told me I couldn't guard her until she crossed half court because this was supposed to be a practice game for them to prepare for the state semifinals game they had in 2 days...Needless to say it wasn't competitive and when I shared this with these athletic neophytes they said that was a long time ago and things have changed...I laughed and said they have...Today they wouldn't call time out...



   
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@the-funeral-director I agree FD but you also were a bad ass in basketball. It’s a huge uphill battle for women to compete with men in physical sports and basketball is very physical.


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Listen...I have 2 daughters...I want to be clear that I fully support title 9...We have lost out way in my opinion because we equate everything to money...Short term it may cost us a couple of bucks to have these programs for women to compete in sports and there is no doubt they aren't as physically strong or as good athletically as men are...It's just a biological and physiological fact...HOWEVER long term I think our society benefits greatly from women competing in sports not because of revenue or lack thereof compared to men's sports but because of what this means for the little girls that idolize them and incentivizes them to do well in school and to compete...Athletics is the greatest thing that ever happened to me besides being a husband and father...I would certainly either be in jail, dead or at best living on the street if it wasn't for sports and what being a ballplayer and part of a team taught me about life...Every kid should have that opportunity and we as a society and culture will be worse off if we eliminate athletic programs due to money...This country has plenty of money and the problem is that most of it is in too few hands leaving most scrambling for crumbs...



   
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@the-funeral-director I love women sports and will be pissed if we get rid of women sports. Hope I didn’t come across the wrong way. I’m for protecting women sports especially men competing in women sports.


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Best example of a woman with a great head on her shoulders is Serena Williams. John McEnroe got into hot water for saying Serena would be the 300 to 600th best player in men's tennis and the media got all over him.

The asked Serena about it and she laughed, then said "he is being kind, I'd get beat 6-0 6-0 by Andy Murray in 30 minutes if we played" They were kinda stunned, to which she followed up by saying "It's just the physical nature of it, men serve harder, they run faster, they hit with more velocity. It's a different game altogether and people don't understand that"

From the mouth of the best women’s tennis player to ever play the game.


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@psugrad81 Not to be that guy, but.... Intermural is within the institution. Intramural is between different schools.



   
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And now my question, do old topics keep showing up in anyone else's "Unread posts"?



   
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@been-there-ii I always like to learn even when it proves I'm wrong. Unfortunately this time that was not the case. You had me convinced but I had to look it up.

Intramural sports are recreational sports leagues and tournaments organized within a single institution, like a university or school, for its own students, faculty, and staff, focusing on fun, fitness, and social engagement rather than intense, external competition.

Intermural means occurring or taking place between two or more groups, institutions, cities, or walls, often referring to sports competitions between different schools or towns, or literally between physical walls, but it's commonly confused with intramural, which means within a single group.



   
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@psugrad81 lol You're right again. Not sure how I got that backwards. Sad part is, weeks ago, I said to myself, 81 has it right. Getting old is a real pain.



   
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I had an advantage. My first year at PSU my house Ogontz (4th and 5th floors of Packer Hall - East Halls) won the intramural overall championship. We didn't win a single sport but we came in 2nd and 3rd in a bunch. This was mostly due to Archie, our "sports director". He went door to door through the house asking each person "What sports are you going to play?". He wouldn't take no for an answer.



   
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@psugrad81 lol Sounds like our service academies!



   
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