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(@roaminglion)
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I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

It did not surprise me at all also moving Florida up 4 spots after not playing is just as bad.  AP and coach polls mean nothing.



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

It did not surprise me at all also moving Florida up 4 spots after not playing is just as bad.  AP and coach polls mean nothing.

I at least get Florida because their two losses are quality losses, and they've beaten some good teams. But Michigan? 



   
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I ain’t saying a word lol



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

It did not surprise me at all also moving Florida up 4 spots after not playing is just as bad.  AP and coach polls mean nothing.

I at least get Florida because their two losses are quality losses, and they've beaten some good teams. But Michigan? 

Please look at Florida’s resume and explain the justification for them being ranked above PSU



   
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Not hard to explain.  Michigan is playing better than PSU right now.  We barely beat Indiana at home, they pounded them away.  It's what they have done lately.  They went 4-0 since playing us, we went 2-2 since playing them.  They would probably win a rematch in the eyes of the casual observer.  They are probably a lesser underdog vs OSU this week.  Not sure on that, I don't really follow odds.  I have no problem with them jumping us and I hope they beat OSU.



   
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Not hard to explain.  Michigan is playing better than PSU right now.  We barely beat Indiana at home, they pounded them away.  It's what they have done lately.  They went 4-0 since playing us, we went 2-2 since playing them.  They would probably win a rematch in the eyes of the casual observer.  They are probably a lesser underdog vs OSU this week.  Not sure on that, I don't really follow odds.  I have no problem with them jumping us and I hope they beat OSU.

And that kind of idiotic logic is exactly what is ridiculous about it. We played two undefeated teams, they played Notre Dame and Indiana. The "eye test" is incredibly stupid to use when you have actual data like head to head available.

Here is why... By that same stupid logic Wisconsin should have obliterated Illinois. Wisky destroyed Michigan, and Michigan destroyed Illinois, so........ But guess what, Illinois beat Wisky. Just because Michigan beat Indiana 39-14 and ours was closer doesn't mean anything. Sure, in absence of any other data you could say that but there is a head to head AND blowout losses. "Playing better" is completely subjective and ignore reality.



   
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It's the AP poll and Coaches Poll they mean nothing anymore...

PSU had the harder schedule playing more ranked teams in that 4 game run...  After Michigan gets dismantled by OSU it won't matter.



   
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It's the AP poll and Coaches Poll they mean nothing anymore...

PSU had the harder schedule playing more ranked teams in that 4 game run...  After Michigan gets dismantled by OSU it won't matter.

It's the principle of it, and to me it shows that these people have such bias that they care more about the name on the front of the shirt than they do actual results on the field



   
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@roaminglion

That's why I said the polls are meaningless...

Let PSU finish out and Mich will fall once they lose to OSU.



   
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I know they are meaningless, that's why I said it was the principle of it. Exactly the meaning I wanted, I'm basically saying "I know it doesn't matter but it still pisses me off anyway"

LMAO 😂



   
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Too funny Roam, I just now saw the rankings and thought I'd come over here and post a comment almost exactly what you just did, beat me to the punch.



   
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@roaminglion

My mistake, off of your OP it seemed more than meaningless to you...

 

Don't get so pissed over a meaningless poll... 😎 



   
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Winners win, losers lose.  We lost two out of four lately.  We are good, not great or elite.  Learn to live with it or pay more for massage chairs for players in the ice cream lounge.  Or just be pissed off like you are.  I'm kind of laughing at it all.  They talked about how great our defensive ends were in the pre season and I don't even know if they played in the last four games.  There was no pass rush.  It's all hype to pay coaches 5 million per year.  Get a grip.  We played ok, but we are not a great team.  Go to a game.  It is all advertising for your dollar.  I like to watch, but I don't care enough to be pissed off.  It just a distraction from life.



   
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@ompa1

I don't see Michigan beating Ohio State.  Minnisota will lose to Wisconsin and Wisconsin will lose to Ohio State. Penn State will be ranked in the Top 10 as the second best Big 10 team.  However, I agree with your statement that Michigan has done a 360 since their loss to Penn State.  The game is in the Big House, so an upset is not out of the question. Michigan opened as a 10 point underdog.  Probably had a lot to due with the Penn State game score. 

Ohio State is good!!! I don't see anybody beating them....not even LSU or Clemson. 

 



   
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@ompa1

I don't see Michigan beating Ohio State.  Minnisota will lose to Wisconsin and Wisconsin will lose to Ohio State. Penn State will be ranked in the Top 10 as the second best Big 10 team.  However, I agree with your statement that Michigan has done a 360 since their loss to Penn State.  The game is in the Big House, so an upset is not out of the question. Michigan opened as a 10 point underdog.  Probably had a lot to due with the Penn State game score. 

Ohio State is good!!! I don't see anybody beating them....not even LSU or Clemson. 

 

Everyone gets so caught up on how teams "look", that they ignore what they did all year. Good for Michigan, they look "good" against us in the 2nd half (games are 4 quarters) and against the fraud known as Notre Dame. That doesn't magically disappear A LOSS TO US HEAD TO HEAD.

At any rate, after they lose to Ohio State we will be ranked ahead of them again. Honestly though, I don't think the CFP committee will put them ahead of us anyway, but who knows.



   
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So Ohio st is elite with 4* and 5* players all over the field and some think they have a chance at winning the NC including myself but we’re just an ok team that was toe to toe with Ohio st the last 3 years lol. We had a chance Saturday but like last year guys were put in position to make a play to help win the game and #4 can’t catch the ball it’s that simple. Bottom line is to beat Ohio st and the 2 or 3 teams out there that’s as good as Ohio st you have to step up and make a play to win and the last 3 years we haven’t had that. That’s a different game if we step up and catch the dang ball. In 2016 we had players to step up in crunch time we blocked the kick and #15 picked that  $h’T up and wasn’t goi g to be denied a TD because he was running his butt off to the end zone. Arguably the best QB Ohio st had ever had JT Barrett had 5 minutes to help his team win but our defense wasn’t having any of it they went out there and sacked his butt for the win jack it’s that simple. It happens to most of the teams playing teams that have better players that’s just the facts but the coaches can only put guys in position to have a chance to win and our coaches have done that we just haven’t executed the plays to win because we can’t catch the F’ing ball on offense or defense or we fumble in critical situations. USC, Michigan State, Ohio State and Kentucky were all winnable games we just didn’t step up and make the nitty gritty play to win the game. It’s not complicated go back and look at the tape. When you are put in position to win a game with less talent that’s great coaching and that’s exactly what James Franklin has done. If our players wasn’t in position to have a chance then you have a coaching problem but that’s not the case. It will and has got better we just need to keep doing what we’re doing and we will eventually get guys to make plays in crunch time and some are on this team now. The situation from the sanctions is what it is and I’ve said many times were still not a 100% we’re playing around 85% and that little extra 15% does make a difference when you’re playing Ohio State, Michigan, LSU and the Tide because the dudes are stacked at every position and to beat ‘em you have to come ready to play and make no mistakes. Ole Slick Nick made some mistakes coaching in the LSU game This year and you know what, it beat him!



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

Oh no! Dear ole state is out of the top 10 and fell behind Michigan.  Compare Michigan schedule with Penn State's schedule.  Both PSU and Michigan have 2 losses. I am not sure what you are upset about.  I'm sure you will have relief on Saturday watching Rutgers get stomped. 



   
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We beat ‘em on the field is why!



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

Oh no! Dear ole state is out of the top 10 and fell behind Michigan.  Compare Michigan schedule with Penn State's schedule.  Both PSU and Michigan have 2 losses. I am not sure what you are upset about.  I'm sure you will have relief on Saturday watching Rutgers get stomped. 

Compare schedules? Easy, up to this point our is tougher. That was simple.



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

Oh no! Dear ole state is out of the top 10 and fell behind Michigan.  Compare Michigan schedule with Penn State's schedule.  Both PSU and Michigan have 2 losses. I am not sure what you are upset about.  I'm sure you will have relief on Saturday watching Rutgers get stomped. 

Compare schedules??  Seriously??  PSU is 1-1 against top 10 teams.  Michigan is 0-2.  PSU's SOS is #12 where Michigan's is #24.  You seriously need to think things thru before making such foolish statements.  You're making this way too easy on us.



   
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Florida is 1-2 against teams ranked in the AP and Usa polls

Michigan is 2-2 against ranked teams in both polls

PSU is 3-2 against ranked team in both boths

So that being said both polls are nothing more then BS according to their own numbers!!!!! Right! Florida deserved a 4 spot jump coming off a bye week!!!!!!



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely zero justification for Michigan being ranked ahead of us in the polls. If nothing else, this shows the complete and utter bias that journalists and coaches have towards big-name teams.

We beat them, they were blown out in there other game, and our only two losses are close games against #2 & #9. WTF?

These people are absolute morons, I fully expect the CFP to at least have us ahead of Michigan. No wonder college football win away from these idiotic polls

Oh no! Dear ole state is out of the top 10 and fell behind Michigan.  Compare Michigan schedule with Penn State's schedule.  Both PSU and Michigan have 2 losses. I am not sure what you are upset about.  I'm sure you will have relief on Saturday watching Rutgers get stomped. 

lol What happened to "we'?



   
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Florida deserved a 4 spot jump coming off a bye week!!!!!!

That made me laugh when I saw that jump...



   
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We will see where the CFP has us tomorrow, I think they put us at #10 right behind Florida:

1. LSU
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. Georgia
5. Alabama
6. Utah
7. Oklahoma
8. Minnesota
9. Florida
10. Penn State

They may jump Baylor over us, but I don't see Michigan making that leap. At least, I'd hope they wouldn't just throw out what they said all year about "body of work" and just say "...but Michigan looks good lately"



   
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