oops ... I dropped my cool-aid.
As I predicted, 10-2 again. I suspect a lot of folks including maybe one coach ( should be ) will be gone next year for various reasons. I think the players give their all. I think Penn State gets the athletes but the coaching is not the best and the game plans questionable. If a dope like me can call plays and get a lot right what does that say? IMHO, Mr Franklin is a fabulous recruiter but not a game day coach. Mr Diaz has proven he is good but why did we play OSU receivers so loose today ... avoid the bomb? Offensive coaching and play plan ..... simply offensive.
Now for another year I have to absorb the BS in Columbus. They don't even trash talk any more as it's like kicking a little rabbit.
I have watched PSU football for over 60 years ... I wish we had some fire like the old days.
The defense played good enough to win...The offense as usual comes up small in the big games...The offensive coordinator needs to be fired immediately...He is terrible...no imagination...With that OLine and those RB's he should have been able to keep OSU honest enough to be able to throw the ball with a little bit of effectiveness...I understand he is supposed to be some guru but he hasn't showed me jack squat since he has been here...Today was an embarrassment...
@the-funeral-director JF is a good recruiter and a mediocre coach and will never be elite at either. If we continue down this same path we’ll be knocked down another rung or two when the new teams come in next year and making it into the twelve team playoff isn’t going to be as easy as most of you think.
Diaz is a legit coach and should stick with being a D coordinator, or take HC position and hire top notch O coordinator.
JF is legit recruiter, good coach but not top tier, better off in mid tier program. He makes $10mill a year, he aint going nowhere and he's had 9 years to turn the program which he has, but he's not winning NCs. $10M/YEAR!!
MY is an enigma, successful everywhere he's been, but two steps behind the big leagues. Is he being held up by JF? If so it will show up in his next gig.
DA is nowhere a top QB for is hype.
One of the RBs will hit the transfer portal, success elsewhere?
Team is stagnant without a legit 1 and 2 WR
10-2 is not a bad year for 95% of D1 programs.
PSU and JF is essentially the Big 10 equivalent of GA in the SEC prior to Kirby Smart's arrival.
@psu61 Georgia was recruiting at an elite level years before Kirby’s arrival, JF has recruited at an elite level one year at PSU and all the other years he’s recruited at the second level. Recruiting experts have been saying that PSU’s chances of recruiting an elite level QB in the near future hinges on how well they handle Allar and how good he becomes. Our 2024 class is once again second level and chances of landing an elite QB that year or the next aren’t looking good.
Yep, patiently waiting for DA to become the QB that folks were telling us he will be.
Yep, patiently waiting for DA to become the QB that folks were telling us he will be.
The thing I don’t get is last year I sat in Beaver Stadium and watched the kid make some pretty amazing throws in his limited playing time and this year I’ve sat in the stadium and watched him not even attempt those throws. I also recall him not even see guys that were open and dumping it 5 yards to the RB instead.
I meant to say that this year I recall him not even seeing guys that were open and dumping it 5 yards to the RB instead.
@psu61 Georgia was recruiting at an elite level years before Kirby’s arrival, JF has recruited at an elite level one year at PSU and all the other years he’s recruited at the second level. Recruiting experts have been saying that PSU’s chances of recruiting an elite level QB in the near future hinges on how well they handle Allar and how good he becomes. Our 2024 class is once again second level and chances of landing an elite QB that year or the next aren’t looking good.
If Mark Richt was recruiting at an elite level before Kirby showed up, GA didn't really play up, and I guess JF has done okay in his tenure with his recruiting classes. Maybe I'm just offbase.
I agree the DA situation is gonna have an impact on QB recruiting, and that may mean some hard choices coaches and players. I hope the kid ends up in the right situation regardless of where he plays b/c he just seems like a damn good kid. I do get the piece of not having top tier WRs and if that's the case, then coach has got to scheme something else for the kid to be successful using his talents.
@psujoe I will give DA credit for having to keep fielding low and to the left snaps. May have affected his concentration a bit, but....
The Kid also gave a damn good post game interview addressing self accountability, IMO he took one for the team; much respect to DA.
Thinking out loud; these conversations are always circular from coaching to recruiting to player development to coaching to recruiting to player development; to JF can't beat OSU or Michigan. The bottom line, imo, is looking at the geographical region for boundary recruiting and what does the region basically offer. Some areas have a plethora of all positions and others specialize in a smaller grouping e.g. midwest=lineman, northeast=skill players, south east=everything, etc. It could be that PSU's recruiting grounds and model has reached the ceiling in today's game and 10-2 seasons should be the expectation with a one off in either direction every 4 years or so. You can look at other programs who dumped 10-2, 9-4 coaches and basically still achieve the same outcomes or worse. Yes, there is always a one off story, but generally speaking, looking back through history gives a pretty good idea of where you are headed unless something significant changes the landscape. Just a random thought with a cup of joe.
@psu61 Well said brother. You win 10 games and are winning Cotton, Rose and fiesta Bowls you just keep trying to recruit that special QB that can win you a NC you don’t go and fire coaches because you lost to Ohio St the 3rd ranked team in the country that has better players and is at home. You fight to get better and that’s what we’ll do. Go beat Michigan and we’ll probably get in the playoffs.
@psu61 The best teams in the college football are the best because they can pull elite players from anywhere in the country. Why can’t PSU recruit elite players from anywhere ? It’s because of games like last night where the coaches go conservative and don’t let the alleged 5 star QB make plays. It’s been a recurring thing year after year no matter who the coordinator is. As I’ve stated many times in the past JF is a good recruiter and a mediocre coach and will never be elite at either.
As far as wasting talent, Jimmy is giving UGA a run for the all time record, lol.
It’s a shame that we’ve been out recruiting Meatchicken forever but they have doiminated us on the field and will most likely win by 20+ this year at the Beav.
@psu61 A look at just one of OSU’s recruiting classes shows that they are not pulling recruits from one specific region.
https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Season/2023-Football/Commits/
@psujoe yep and Penn St turned them into this when they got in the big 10 I’ve been saying that for years. Besides money we gain nothing by being in the big 10. We could recruit so much better in the south if we were in the ACC. Joe come south and got skilled position players all the time if I remember correctly. Ohio St is licking their chops with Penn St being in the big 10 but I guess it’s all about money
@southern-psu-fan what the hell are you talking about? OSU’s elite coaching is what turned them into that and nothing else.
@psujoe Day is not an elite coach, he has the best players. Stick day at Penn St and he wins 7 games a year at best. The big 10 wasn’t shit for 20 years before Penn St joined go back and look.
The only thing the big 10 was known for is Michigan losing to ND and the Ohio St michigan game at the end of the season, that’s it.
how do you even come up with this stuff? You constantly contradict yourself and apparently don’t even see it@psujoe Day is not an elite coach, he has the best players. Stick day at Penn St and he wins 7 games a year at best. The big 10 wasn’t shit for 20 years before Penn St joined go back and look.
@psujoe Day has lost the last 2 games to Michigan. 2-3 in bowl games and 1-3 in playoff games with players that are elite on par with Georgia and Alabama. Check Ohio States record the 20 years prior to Penn St joining and you’ll see. That’s what I said so how did I contradict myself? If he loses to Michigan again and doesn’t win his bowl game he might be on the hot seat next year. I just call it as I see but that doesn’t mean I’m always right lol
