After reading the investigative report, it's really sad that this guy wasn't fired. In some of the more interesting items from the report:
* The investigators found out that when Meyer heard of the article coming out, he asked a staffer how to change the settings on his phone to delete messages over a year old. When investigators then looked at his phone... WHAT A SURPRISE!!! No messages over a year old. - PROVEN
* He was SPECIFICALLY TOLD by Gene Smith before Big Ten media days (in a txt message) to acknowledge he knew about two legal situations involving Zach Smith in 2009 and 2015. Meyer acknowledged receiving the text... He then proceeded to lie. - PROVEN
* Meyer did not inform AD Gene Smith or anyone at Ohio State about Zach Smith's 2009 arrest when he hired him as an assistant coach in December 2011. - PROVEN
* In June 2016 Meyer directed Zach Smith to be admitted to a drug treatment facility for addiction, and never told the AD or Ohio State Zach Smith was being treated for drug abuse. - PROVEN
None of the things listed are in dispute, all were verified by the investigators. How do you completely dismiss an order to tell the truth to the media and survive? He said he "wasn't prepared for the question", which turns out to be ANOTHER LIE. He was TOLD by his own AD to ANSWER TRUTHFULLY AND DIDN'T. WTF?
He also didn't report one of his coaches being admitted to a drug facility, and also didn't tell them about his 2009 incident at Florida. WTF?
Also, anyone who thinks his phone just happened to have messages from more than a year erased, I have some beachfront property in Siberia I'd like to sell you.
The guy is just a outright liar, plain and simple. Even the investigators in the report stated they believed he was lying about multiple things, but were unable to "confirm" them. What gets me though is how the AD told him exactly what to say to the media and he disregarded it. SO... For all you that kept saying "at my job"... If your boss told you to specifically do something and you decided to lie about it, I'm pretty sure YOU WOULD BE FIRED.
If Joe Paterno hadn't been a washed up old coach twenty years past his prime he wouldn't have been fired in 2012. It's all about money and what the coach is worth to the university.
Whatever backlash OSU gets will be brief and totally blown over by mid season. Too much $$$ on the line to let him go.
Regardless of anything else, I'm just amazed that an employee can be ordered by his boss to tell the truth, disregard that message and choose to lie, and retain their job.
Not only that, but also state they weren't prepared for the question... When they were prepared for it by their boss. So not only lied once, but then lied again about what their boss told them.
So complete disregard for your bosses wishes and instructions and lying about those instructions is okay. I doubt any of us would get away with that at our place of business, we'd all be fired for lying and insubordination.
The 2012 team was built to compete for the NC. We also had a shot in 08 and 05 things just didn’t bounce our way. He was old remoh but not washed up lol
Just going on with ya remoh lol
How did he keep his job? Try 73 & 8.
"If Joe Paterno hadn’t been a washed up old coach twenty years past his prime he wouldn’t have been fired in 2012."
I've got to say, I completely disagree with this. It wasn't as if PSU had coaches lining up to succeed him. Even before the sanctions were announced, decent coaches were treating PSU like the plague. Under those circumstances, JoePa was tremendously valuable as PSU's head coach.
Making comparisons on how things work in the normal "work world" to the world of major college athletics is like comparing apples and oranges. In both scenarios they couldn't not be more dissimilar!
1. The reason I brought it up is because many on this board were saying that he didn't do anything wrong and "in my workplace" arguments were being used by them. My statement was merely a rebuttal to those sentiments.
2. Having been in the world of major college athletics as an athlete, I would disagree on your statement. There are many similarities between the workplace and college athletics. For some unknown reason people seem to hold these people up on a pedestal, when it's just a job. Coaches have bosses like everyone else, and like everyone else they go to work everyday.
In many ways they get away with a lot of things just like CEOs get away with a lot of things. To me having having experienced both worlds, they're not as far apart as you think.
I remember a rumor that Meyer was being talked about maybe taking over after joe, did anybody else ever hear that?
One difference between major college athletics and the "work place" is the head football and basketball coaches individually tend to make more than the president and athletic director combined. That tends to add to the arrogance and hero worship.
I've heard several people on the PennDead discussion board mention that possibility before O'Brien was hired. I was very happy when that didn't happen. If having a lying jerk as your head coach is the price of winning championships, then I'm not interested. That price is too high for me.
Certainly agree there.
Anyways, OSU did what you hey felt was best for them. We shall see if if has an effect long term on them... I doubt it will.
On to App State!
He also lied when he said he properly reported the 2015 incident!
