If the conference championships don't matter why play em? And the reason why "they" said the conference championships don't matter is because if they did it would take all the subjectivity out of the process and make the whole thing crystal clear and easy...The money don't want that...They have business interests here...
@the-funeral-director Ā this is the 4 teams brother and you got your Cincinnati and Michigan in so they will be no excuses baby 😁
2 teams from one conference and 3 other conferences left out? Sure seems like the odds are stacked in one conferences favor and hard to prove they're the best when they don't play anyone else.
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@psujoe Ā Michigan plays Georgia and Cincinnati plays Alabama. This is what yāall wanted but I wanted Ohio St vs Alabama but Iāve excepted the teams and so does everybody else. When this thing is said and done there will be no excuse we will have the best team in the country. Ole southern is picking the dawgs I donāt think Alabama can beat āem againĀ
@psujoe Ā Michigan plays Georgia and Cincinnati plays Alabama. This is what yāall wanted but I wanted Ohio St vs Alabama but Iāve excepted the teams and so does everybody else. When this thing is said and done there will be no excuse we will have the best team in the country. Ole southern is picking the dawgs I donāt think Alabama can beat āem againĀ
Once again. 2 teams from one conference and 3 other conferences left out. How do you not see how the odds are stacked in one conferences favor? This isn't the 1st time this has happened, you can spew your blah blah would defeat whoever but all that proves is you're brainwashed.
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@psujoe Ā if I had my way it would be 2 big 10 teams against 2 SEC teams because I believe Ohio st, Michigan, Georgia and Alabama are the best 4 teams I didnāt want Cincinnati yāall did. If Georgia doesnāt belong and aināt good enough Michigan should take care of āem
@psujoe Ā if I had my way it would be 2 big 10 teams against 2 SEC teams because I believe Ohio st, Michigan, Georgia and Alabama are the best 4 teams I didnāt want Cincinnati yāall did. If Georgia doesnāt belong and aināt good enough Michigan should take care of āem
Obviously because OSU and Meatchicken were good in 1949
@psujoe absolutely not just because Ohio St and Michigan are better than Cincinnati and ND
Guys Iām for only power 5 conference champs in but this is what they give us.
Let's be honest here, this isn't a SEC thing at all. It has nothing to do with the conference, it's about 1 team: ALABAMA.
Georgia has been in the CFP twice. That's it. LSU has been there once. That's it. The Big Ten has OSU, MSU, and now Michigan. Both conferences have had 3 teams in. Pretty even.
However... there's Alabama. They keep getting there. They made it in almost every year, and I believe the reason the SEC gets so much love is them... Period. Take Bama out of the equation and the SEC wouldn't be as respected. Is what it is.
It's not about the SEC... It's about Bama. They get so much respect, and it inflates the entire conference.
Bama won their conference championship...So they are 1 of 5 power conference champions...Cincy is unbeaten and Notre Dame has a loss...4 of those teams should be in...Problem is only 3 of em are...Georgia has no business being there...They shouldn't have even been considered...That is the issue I have and most people have...There shouldn't need to be a "committee or a commission" involved in this...The conference championship games are a playoff game...Win and you have a chance to be in...Lose and your out...
When you only have 4 teams in the tournament there should never be 2 teams from the same conference in the tournament EVER...That is why this whole thing is a sham...This sham was exposed by UCF a few years back...You have excluded 3 of the power 5 conference champions and they call this a playoff? It's a joke...
When you only have 4 teams in the tournament there should never be 2 teams from the same conference in the tournament EVER...That is why this whole thing is a sham...This sham was exposed by UCF a few years back...You have excluded 3 of the power 5 conference champions and they call this a playoff? It's a joke...
We get it, you don't think 2 teams from the same conference should be in. It's too bad that the committee and the way the system is set up is to the contrary
I can't see how anybody with an ounce of brains would consider this setup a fair and equitable way to decide a national champion in any sport? Skew the odds to one particular conference or group and exclude everybody else from having a chance to compete...Sounds like a fair setup to me...Think about all the teams that won championships that nobody gave a snowballs chance in hell of winning...If they went by this system they never would have even had a chance to compete...I always thought sports was about competition but when it comes down to this sham competition gets thrown out the window...We do eyeball tests and come up with elaborate machinations to put in teams that lost because it fits the narrative and serves ESPN's business interests...I won't be watching and that is what everybody else should do until "they" set up an honest playoff system...
I can't see how anybody with an ounce of brains would consider this setup a fair and equitable way to decide a national champion in any sport? Skew the odds to one particular conference or group and exclude everybody else from having a chance to compete...Sounds like a fair setup to me...Think about all the teams that won championships that nobody gave a snowballs chance in hell of winning...If they went by this system they never would have even had a chance to compete...I always thought sports was about competition but when it comes down to this sham competition gets thrown out the window...We do eyeball tests and come up with elaborate machinations to put in teams that lost because it fits the narrative and serves ESPN's business interests...I won't be watching and that is what everybody else should do until "they" set up an honest playoff system...
Who are you arguing with? I've already stated multiple times that I hate the system, but it is what it is.
It's certainly better than anything else in division 1 football for the past 100 years. Back then it was just voting, and at least we somewhat have a playoff now. Next 3 years it's most likely going to 8 or 12.
Next 3 years it's most likely going to 8 or 12.
What makes you say that? The last article I read on that subject said there's no enough support to expand.
My eyes are tired from reading these posts.Ā
On the CFP committee defense, they have never said conference championship games are part of the playoffs they said they would consider conference championships and head to head play but their job was to put the 4 best teams regardless of ANYTHING else but itās not even that itās the best 4 teams in their opinion with the best records because we all know Ohio St is better than Cincinnati yāall just donāt want to say it because some of yāall think Cincinnati deserves it because theyāre undefeated and thatās doing the same thing the committee is doing. Best 4 teams are Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State and Michigan from what Iāve seen and I canāt stand 3 of them teams but itās just the truth from what I e watched.
If we would do this thing the way ole southern wants it would be power 5 conference champs in and youād have to win a conference to get in. My teams would be Baylor, Alabama, Utah and Michigan now donāt this look better than what we got now? Sorry ND you aināt in a power 5 conference! Iād rather argue about what conference champ got left out this would be fun.
The last report I read on the expansion of the CFP stated they were tabling it until next summer...The topics that were to be discussed were an expansion to 8 with no talks of going to a 16 team playoff...The other item of business surprisingly was the expansion of networks involved in the process...It seems many of the folks involved in these discussions aren't too fond of 1 network controlling the narrative either...The piece also went on to say no changes were imminent before 2025 or 2026...The way this CFP "system" was set up was purposely designed to be a sham...If my memory serves they had to placate the major bowls and incorporate them into the playoff system...That was part of the deal...Also the criteria for making the playoff was set up in such a way to more or less let a "committee" select the 4 teams based solely on their opinions...So how they rig this system is simple...The rig the pre season rankings top heavy with teams that are playing whoever they want in...That gives their sacred cows "quality wins"...They take out any requirement of being a conference champion because that eliminates any chance of them losing their ability to hand pick whoever they want...These people knew what they were doing and know exactly what they are doing...This is anything but an honest playoff looking to crown a real national champion...They are trying to sell it as such but anybody with an ounce of brains can see this is anything but a tournament in search of a true national champion...What you have is a sham "committee" trying to convince you that this is a fair process...Anybody that has ever competed knows damn well this isn't an open competition but a hand picked group of teams some predetermined before the season even started that the network in charge of this thing wants in due to their business partnerships...2 of 5 power conference champions are participating...I would argue that Utah may be playing the best football in the country right now...Of course they didn't get an invite...Neither did a Baylor team that is peaking and playing their best football right now...It's absurd...I won't be watching this farce...
@sky lol Yeah, but ya can't not look at them, for fear of missing something.
Bama has the best QB of the 4 teams, the best receivers and an OāLine that can block and a good D. And probably the best coach. Hard to beat that combination.Ā
On the CFP committee defense, they have never said conference championship games are part of the playoffs they said they would consider conference championships and head to head play but their job was to put the 4 best teams regardless of ANYTHING else but itās not even that itās the best 4 teams in their opinion with the best records because we all know Ohio St is better than Cincinnati yāall just donāt want to say it because some of yāall think Cincinnati deserves it because theyāre undefeated and thatās doing the same thing the committee is doing. Best 4 teams are Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State and Michigan from what Iāve seen and I canāt stand 3 of them teams but itās just the truth from what I e watched.
And here's the point we've been trying to get through to you. Who would your next four teams be, who would be your number 5 through 8? I guarantee if you put numbers 1 through 4 against numbers 5 through 8 the higher ranked team will not win all of those games and that would prove you don't know who the best team or the best conference in the country is. You may think you do but you don't and neither do the alleged experts that are currently shooting their mouths off on the radio and TV.
Putting two teams in from one conference is beyond ridiculous when those teams from that conference have played no one of any significance outside of their conference.
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@southern-psu-fan One thing is clear after the dust settles..After 15 yrs or so, give or take, and the BCS attempt, now the CFP to label itĀ a "championship",...You dont hear the term anymore, one commentator had the audacity to say it lastĀ week....the eventual champ, is stillĀ a "mythical" nationalĀ champ
Next 3 years it's most likely going to 8 or 12.
What makes you say that? The last article I read on that subject said there's no enough support to expand.
The last article I read was they met this past weekend and were 50/50 on getting it done that day. Since they couldn't agree on the finer points they tabled it until January. We will certainly know more in January about it at or after the NC game.
Also, 3 years down the road they won't need a unanimous decision anymore. The contract runs out in 2025 and getting a new format after that would be much easier. At that point, all you'd need is a majority to agree on what they want it to look like, and reports were that although they couldn't unanimously agree on a format, there was majority support for one in particular.
I think it gets done. I remember in the early 90s people said we'd never get a NC game, then the BCS came about. Then people complained we'd never get a playoff... until we did. Now I just think it's the same thing again, people won't think it will happen and then it will just like with the BCS and CFP.
@psujoe Ā I understand exactly what yāall are saying. I believe it should be Alabama, Baylor, Utah and Michigan because itās 4 conference champs but under this system theyāve come up with I believe it should be Georgia, Alabama, Michigan and Ohio St because from the eye test these looks like the best teams. Trust me Iām I agreement with yāall. This is what we got so Iām giving my opinion on my teams of the system we have.Iām assuming they think Cincinnati is better than Ohio St which is mind boggling to me. Itās just my opinion but I believe Ohio St would beat Cincinnati as bad as they wonāt tooĀ
