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(@lionbacker99)
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So, Trump tweets out his followers exclaiming “White Power” and your assessment is that race relations are the best they ever have been? Wow. Don’t let the obvious get in your way. Do you condone that behavior? Do you, as a Christian, think that is appropriate? How about the the PR stunt at the church holding up the Bible? The minister of that church was not happy that he did that? Do you approve of that? Seems as though you are turning away from some things to justify your position? 
I’m still waiting on you to show me how he has been tough on China and Russia? Calling it the Chinese Flu means he has big balls? That’s being tough on China in your book? To me that epitomizes exactly what he is.. a bully and a bigot. Also, a coward. He talks a big game, while on twitter but doesn’t produce much more. 



   
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where we’re you when Joe Biden said if you don’t know the difference between me and trump you ain’t black? How disgusting that is to tell black folks that. Stop listening to people that hate 99 and just look around today when you’re out and you’ll find that life in the USA is great for 95% of all people. When you listen to hate all the time you’ll stay pissed off and I can tell you listen to people that hate Trump. I’m not saying trump is perfect but he’s got people out just waiting for him to make a mistake so they can put it on the news. Try to find people standing in line to get out of this country the last 3 years and if there is any you might have a point but I think we both know people are standing in line to get in the USA and they have been the last 3 years. Look around and you’ll see 95% of people are very happy and would leave this country for any other country.



   
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We have 325 million people in this country and one idiot says something and that takes all the progress we’ve made the last 50 years? Nothing will ever be perfect but 99% of all races of people are good people and the 1% are what they are. 



   
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@lionbacker99

lol, race relations in this country are just fine and are better than they ever have been. Trump will get re-elected again and he will get more black votes than any other republican president has just wait and see also it not the presidents job to help blacks it’s his job to put everybody in position to get a job and it’s up to us to take advantage of his work and IMO trump has done a fantastic job because blacks are doing better today than any time in our history and that’s just the facts. It’s funny that most of the problems that blacks have are in democrat districts especially with the police but I guess you want to blame trump for that too? 99, stop listening to whoever you’re listening to and just look around and see the lives that 90% of us are living and you’ll see we are spoiled F’g rotten compared to most of the world. Everybody wants to come to the great ole USA but nobody wants to leave and that’s the facts so don’t let the truth get in the way. Life is great baby count your blessings!  Please excuse my French I got a little excited 😜 

This rhetoric is such BS, because it's all about inner cities. So yeah, blacks are doing terrible in democrat areas because metro areas are all democrat.

You could say the same thing about rural America. "All the dying small towns and farmers losing their homes are in Republican districts" Funny how republicans never seem to make that argument.

Fact is Trump took over an economy that another President started, and wants you to believe he did it all himself. All he did was continue Obama's success, mostly by leveraging America's future with ridiculous tax cuts that put us 1 trillion or more in the hole every year. Great, he paid 1 trillion a year for a good economy, eventually that can't go on... see his casino history for an example. Rack up huge debt and get out before it crashes then blame someone else. Trump 101.

Don't believe me, here's a graph of black unemployment since 2010. Tell me how Trump did anything other than not screw up what OIbama put in place after the 2010 recession? Yet Trump and his cronies would have you believe Obama was terrible and did nothing to combat black unemployment.

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@southern-psu-fan

It's all BS from Trump. Here's 2 more examples of what Trump takes credit for: Black arrests and black poverty, all hugely dropped during Obama's years and started leveling off once Trump took over, yet he'll try and tell you it's all him and Obama made it worse.

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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan

We have 325 million people in this country and one idiot says something and that takes all the progress we’ve made the last 50 years? Nothing will ever be perfect but 99% of all races of people are good people and the 1% are what they are. 

Let me fix that for you... 

"We have 325 million people in this country and THE PRESIDENT says something and that takes all the progress we’ve made the last 50 years?"

Yeah, if that idiot is the President it can have a major effect. Don't try an minimize it by trying to insinuate he's one random idiot.



   
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That’s not my argument because I pull for whoever is in charge because I never pull against me. I said life in the USA is great and  it has been under all presidents including Trump. I said race relations are good which they are from what I see maybe y’all see something different and if it is different and if that’s the case then maybe you’re the problem. I have no problems with black folk and I never have. I use to get my butt kicked on the playgrounds but that happens. There’s also article out there that can make Trump look good with statistics but I’m sure you won’t post them. You can always find articles to fit what you want somebody to see and if you liked trump that’s what you would put up. I’ve done told ya I pull for whoever is running the country and if Joe beats trump I’ll be on his bandwagon it’s that simple. Y’all call Trump out but won’t call a Democrats out and that’s being hypocritical IMO



   
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That’s not my argument because I pull for whoever is in charge because I never pull against me. I said life in the USA is great and  it has been under all presidents including Trump. I said race relations are good which they are from what I see maybe y’all see something different and if it is different and if that’s the case then maybe you’re the problem. I have no problems with black folk and I never have. I use to get my butt kicked on the playgrounds but that happens. There’s also article out there that can make Trump look good with statistics but I’m sure you won’t post them. You can always find articles to fit what you want somebody to see and if you liked trump that’s what you would put up. I’ve done told ya I pull for whoever is running the country and if Joe beats trump I’ll be on his bandwagon it’s that simple. Y’all call Trump out but won’t call a Democrats out and that’s being hypocritical IMO

"There’s also article out there that can make Trump look good with statistics but I’m sure you won’t post them."

Absolute BS. I am not doing your research for you, and you don't get to say "trust me it exists but I'm not going to take time to post it".

Also, none of my graphs make Trump inherently look "bad". All they do is show what he is claiming to be absolute nonsense and completely false. He claims Obama was terrible, and that he's done more for blacks than any president ever. Those charts obviously show Obama did quite a lot and Trump trying to claim otherwise is complete chit. Trump has said on numerous occasions he was the reason why blacks were doing so well, well if there was a steady decline in unemployment for 8 years before Trump even took office, is Trump really responsible for it?

I do find it interesting that you look at charts that show Obama had a hand in the steady unemployment decline, and somehow that makes Trump look bad. Like, you claim to say you support the president whoever it is, but for some reason charts that show Obama did well you don't seem to support at all.



   
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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan

We have 325 million people in this country and one idiot says something and that takes all the progress we’ve made the last 50 years? Nothing will ever be perfect but 99% of all races of people are good people and the 1% are what they are. 

When the one tweeting the video is the President and he is thanking the moron exclaiming a white supremist saying, then yes, the President set us back at least 60 years. Not even you can possibly defend that action. This is the underlying tone Trump has set since day one. He is more divisive than any President in my lifetime, that’s for sure. 



   
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You have every right to vote for whomever you want. That’s the beauty of a democracy. At this point, if the Democrats had a traffic cone on the ticket, I’d vote for the traffic cone. That’s my right. I have given you reasons why I won’t vote for Trump and so far your reasons to vote for him include that he calls China names and you want your stock market money back (which isn’t a guarantee no matter who is elected), correct? You couldn’t tell me how he was tough on China. You couldn’t tell me how he was tough on Russia. You’ve completely avoided the issue of his childish and racist tweets. You claim race relations in this country are good? I guess all the nonsense going on the past few weeks was my imagination. You seem to think he handled the pandemic well, which is laughable. Maybe if he would have gotten off of twitter and done his job back in January or whenever he was made aware of it instead of denying it, the U.S. would be better off than we are right now? As FD said, he has also politicized wearing a mask, which is downright ridiculous. To each his own I guess. Personally, I think he is an incompetent, narcissistic child and I can’t wait until he and his freeloading, silver spooned children are booted from the Whitehouse. 



   
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like I said you hammer trump and give Biden a pass on all the disgusting crap he’s done. I would post links on my information but I don’t know how but the BET founder has made good comments about trump and how he’s helped blacks with jobs. As calling China names that’s just not true he calls the chine virus the Chinese virus because that’s where it came from and it must have struck a nerve in China because they asked him to stop after they acted like a bunch of cry babies about it. Trump put a hurting on China’s and Russia economy and you know it so I’m not going to go there. As for the pandemic trump stopped all travel from China around late January and the democrats called him a racist for doing it so I don’t know where you get he waited because if the democrats had their way about it the traveling from China and Europe never would have stopped and how he’s handed the pandemic he’s listened to the best scientists we have with Dr Fouci and Dr Birx. These 2 doctors are the best and that’s who he took advice from. If you don’t like trump vote him out we’ll see in November 



   
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As for these punks rioting and destroying other people’s property just look where it’s happening I hate it but we get what we vote for it’s that simple. It’s antifa and white supremacy scumbags destroying everything the white supremacy scumbags wear 2 faces but I know it’s them because it’s how them evil scumbags  work. BTW I’m not on the trump bandwagon even though I want him to win I’m on the USA bandwagon and I always have been.


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like I said you hammer trump and give Biden a pass on all the disgusting crap he’s done. I would post links on my information but I don’t know how but the BET founder has made good comments about trump and how he’s helped blacks with jobs. As calling China names that’s just not true he calls the chine virus the Chinese virus because that’s where it came from and it must have struck a nerve in China because they asked him to stop after they acted like a bunch of cry babies about it. Trump put a hurting on China’s and Russia economy and you know it so I’m not going to go there. As for the pandemic trump stopped all travel from China around late January and the democrats called him a racist for doing it so I don’t know where you get he waited because if the democrats had their way about it the traveling from China and Europe never would have stopped and how he’s handed the pandemic he’s listened to the best scientists we have with Dr Fouci and Dr Birx. These 2 doctors are the best and that’s who he took advice from. If you don’t like trump vote him out we’ll see in November 

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2020/we-have-it-totally-under-control-a-timeline-of-president-donald-trumps-response-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

Yep, he handled it like a true leader. What a guy. 



   
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Fair enough. I’ll check out the articles you mentioned about Biden, but as I said, if a traffic cone was running against Trump, the traffic cone gets my vote 10 out of 10 times. All I know is this, I was taught to treat people with respect and the way I wanted to be treated. It’s really simple. I grew up going to church every Sunday. There is the right way to conduct yourself and treat people and the wrong way. I’ve seen nothing from Trump that says he has any respect or love for anyone except himself and the almighty dollar. He panders with his rhetoric to those that believe there are different classes of human beings and I can’t condone that. Being on twitter and calling people names isn’t leadership. 

Further, when high ranking, highly respected, distinguished Military leaders speak out against an acting President, it gets my attention. These are the leaders we trust to keep us safe. The ones in charge of protecting our democracy and borders. The ones protecting our young men and women on foreign soil and putting the Constitution and our freedom above their own. It’s rare that they voice anything negative about a President, very rare about a current sitting President. So, when many of them come out and announce that the acting President is divisive and a threat to the constitution, I think we owe it to this great country to listen. You are free to vote as you wish. It’s those military leaders that have afforded you that right. At a minimum, listen to what they are saying. The way Trump treated Senator McCain, a war hero, was disgusting. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/06/scores-of-retired-military-leaders-publicly-denounce-trump.html/amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/william-mcraven-against-trump-navy-seal-presidency-2019-10%3famp



   
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@lionbacker99

like I said you hammer trump and give Biden a pass on all the disgusting crap he’s done. I would post links on my information but I don’t know how but the BET founder has made good comments about trump and how he’s helped blacks with jobs. As calling China names that’s just not true he calls the chine virus the Chinese virus because that’s where it came from and it must have struck a nerve in China because they asked him to stop after they acted like a bunch of cry babies about it. Trump put a hurting on China’s and Russia economy and you know it so I’m not going to go there. As for the pandemic trump stopped all travel from China around late January and the democrats called him a racist for doing it so I don’t know where you get he waited because if the democrats had their way about it the traveling from China and Europe never would have stopped and how he’s handed the pandemic he’s listened to the best scientists we have with Dr Fouci and Dr Birx. These 2 doctors are the best and that’s who he took advice from. If you don’t like trump vote him out we’ll see in November 

"As calling China names that’s just not true he calls the chine virus the Chinese virus because that’s where it came from "

Oh come on Southern, no he doesn't just call it the Chinese Virus because that's were it comes from, he's called it the "Kung Flu Virus" multiple times and if you even try to explain that away as somehow kidding or not calling China names... I mean come on now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/06/24/trump-once-again-calls-covid-19-coronavirus-the-kung-flu/#22e000ec1f59



   
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"As for the pandemic trump stopped all travel from China around late January and the democrats called him a racist for doing it"

1. No he didn't stop all travel from China. On January 31st all he did was prohibit non-U.S. citizens from entering the USA. US citizens were still free to COME AND GO AS THEY PLEASED. Those coming back from China were not quarantined, their immediate family wasn't either. He didn't ban cargo from China, he didn't ban freight from China, all he did was keep non-US citizens out. He still was letting US citizen fly to and from China. THAT IS NOT A BAN. There were still 30 planes a day from China landing with people on them at LAX February 5th, just about a week after Trump's so called "ban". Many other planes at other airports too. Stop falling for this nonsense.

2. None of the Democrats congressional leaders have criticized that decision. If you disagree, don't just say "yes they have" without showing proof. If they said it, find it or I don't believe you.

3. Biden never criticized it either. Trump will have you believe Biden said "“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.” shortly after the restrictions were announced. And as if Biden never said anything like that before, which he had... multiple times before the travel restrictions. 

Of course, Trump and his supporters leave out the full quote, which is: "We have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China. A national emergency worldwide alert. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of the president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science."

In that context it's clear Biden is talking about Trump's credibility based on his history, and saying the same thing he'd said before about Trump... that's he has a history of xenophobia and fearmongering and doesn't want more of the same at this time. He quite obviously was not calling his travel restrictions (which Biden never even mentioned in the speech) racist.

4. "he’s listened to the best scientists we have with Dr Fouci and Dr Birx." - Has he Southern? Maybe at one time, but he retweeted on several occasions posts with "#firefauchi" in them, and Fauchi juist testified that he hasn't even spoken to Trump in weeks. Also, at press conferences he'd let Fauchi speak and then get up to the podium and contradict him. Fauchi continually said to wear masks and Trump never wore one. He said Hydroxychloroquine wasn't proven and we should find out more, and then Trump said "go out and take it, what do you have to lose".

I mean, my lord.



   
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china unleashes a deadly virus on us and you’re worried about what he calls it? I don’t give a rats butt what he calls it to be honest with ya. That’s still not calling China a name it’s giving a virus a name



   
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Dr Fouci said many time we didn’t have to wear a mask I heard him myself say it. Joe Biden is an ass licker of China and he always has been and you must been on vacation or something because Nancy Pelosi and most Democrats hammered trump when he stopped travel from China. The last 4 presidents before trump made this bed and now we have to lay in it. Like I said if you don’t like what’s going on right now with the coronavirus then look in the mirror because that’s who’s fault it is!



   
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china unleashes a deadly virus on us and you’re worried about what he calls it? I don’t give a rats butt what he calls it to be honest with ya. That’s still not calling China a name it’s giving a virus a name

No, I'm not... I didn't bring it up, but I'm also certainly not going to let people lie or be ignorant about it and say he only called it the China virus and didn't give it racist nicknames. He did, deal with it... you don't get to say he didn't and then blast me about actually calling you on it.

And really? Give me a break, you are actually going to even try to argue that rhyming with Kung Fu isn't some sort of insult? This "well technically" it's not calling the country China a name... We all know what he was doing, just deal with it and move on.



   
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Dr Fouci said many time we didn’t have to wear a mask I heard him myself say it. Joe Biden is an ass licker of China and he always has been and you must been on vacation or something because Nancy Pelosi and most Democrats hammered trump when he stopped travel from China. The last 4 presidents before trump made this bed and now we have to lay in it. Like I said if you don’t like what’s going on right now with the coronavirus then look in the mirror because that’s who’s fault it is!

Quote one of them, I've had enough of people saying something happened without providing any proof whatsoever. So a lot of them said it? Great then it should be easy to find... show us the quote from a Democratic leader.

Also, what the hell is this nonsense about Biden being an ass licker of China? I wasn't even talkin about him, his policies, or anything other than the quote that Trump and his cronies keep trying to say was him being against the travel bans. He wasn't and he wasn't.

I am so sick of all of this, because you called Trump out on his BS people always think that must me and you're a die-hard liberal or some Biden fan. I'm not, both candidates effing suck.



   
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Lastly, Dr. Fauchi in the very beginning didn't mandate mask-wearing. So yes, back in February Dr. Fauchi said he wasn't sure about wearing a mask yet. I didn't say that every single moment of the entire coronavirus that doctor fauchi was saying to wear a mask... what I did say is that he would get up to the podium many times, say to wear a mask, and Trump would then come on not wearing a mask and tell people they didn't have to wear one.

So again... stop it. Dr. Fauchi, especially recently, is saying to wear a mask and Trump is flat-out contradicting him.



   
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I am gonna start this post by saying I view all politicians as liars, crooks and thieves...The country is so divided that you can't really have a reasonable discussion about almost anything anymore as even the simplest things have a political annotation to them...From my viewpoint it always seems like there has to be an equivalency to everything...If the Right wing does something their excuse for it is always fired off at the Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer or Obama...Same goes for the left...Truth and Facts are meaningless...I can say this much...I am about to be 58 years old and am 98.2% German from from southwest Germany...YES I did the whole 23 and me and ancestry.com thing...I still have shirttail relatives in Germany...I know history and am quite familiar with the history of Germany from 1914 through today...The first thing any wannabe dictator does is discredit the newspapers and media...Everything they say about me is a lie and distorted they say...They bring in their own media outlet to trumpet their agenda...Once they control the media they move on to controlling the elections...Once they gain control of the elections and get their people in they move on to the police and military...They bring their police squads in to "control" the masses through intimidation...Racism and race baiting is always a part of the strategy as their always has to be a boogeyman and a scapegoat...Once they gain control of the government they systematically begin to undo and tear down all of the checks, balances and oversight that maintain and keep a government honest...Of course it starts with the department of justice or whatever the countries equivalent of that department is...As as a result they take control of the courts and you begin to see a sham court system set up to benefit the regime and used as a battering ram against the regimes enemies...Once all of these are complete you now have a dictatorship...If none of this looks familiar then I urge all of you to open your minds and see what's going on here...This isn't about get what I want at all cost and be damned...Many of you folks are veterans and some are still serving...I know what you all are fighting for and defending and my gratitude to all of you can never be fully expressed...I ask all of you to really open your minds and see what is going on right now...Forget political parties as we are all Americans...Take an honest and unbiased look at our government and who the leaders are...See what is being done...Lets fix it before it is too late...It's time to stop making excuses for these people....



   
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well said. If only I could have said all of this as eloquently as you did without showing my frustration. 



   
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For the record ( as if anyone should care ),  I’m on your side of the political equation though I’ve always considered myself a middle of the road Democrat. I can’t discuss politics because I lose myself in the frustration and I know that in this divisive, flag planted environment, I won’t be converting anyone. 



   
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Thank you. I am middle of the road Democrat also. My dad was a coal miner and a construction worker. My mother worked in a factory. Both of my grandfathers started working in the coal mines at age 13.  I was the first college graduate on either side of my family. That’s why I’ll be voting for Biden in December. He gets it. He grew up middle class in Scranton. He understands what it’s like to live in a family where the bills get paid based on a weekly paycheck. Trump never experienced that and can’t relate to that lifestyle.
The divisiveness and far left and far right wings of this country are tearing down the system. Although it will never happen, I would love to see this two party system gone. It’s too corrupt. 



   
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