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Underlion
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I just came across some NCAA Data from 2013.  It was reported on the NCAA Website.

GSR is Graduation Success Rate.

Avg 2012-2013 GSR

ACC       76

B10        75

SEC        69

P10        68

B12        66

MAC      65

 

Football GSR by Race 2012-2013

 

School  African American            White   Ttl

AL          61                                       96          73

Aub       63                                       89          70

LSU        71                                       83          74

OSU       63                                       95          75

PSU       88                                       87          85

 

Glaring differences...

 

And why did the NCAA stop reporting GSR and especially Minority GSR?  Because we don't come here to play school.  And the measurement was ugly.

 

Last I looked the NCAA reported some new measurement that was 'improvement'.  So it made poor performing schools look better than NW and PSU.  Hard to improve when you are at 85%.

IMO, one reason we end up with NIL is because education had little value and schools were just using athletes.

 

 



   
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IMO sports are no different than acting, accounting, or plumbing. They are jobs that you need training for, so going to college to play football is just like going to school to become a lawyer in my mind. Both require commitment to learning that vocation.

Playing football is a job just like anything else.

I also wonder about graduation rates in respect to kids leaving early because they are good enough to be drafted, or transferring to other schools. Both used to count against grad rates.


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I think we all can see why they changed their reporting procedure.



   
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Tae Beutel
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Underlion, Thanks for the post, you have provided very interesting information.  Sometimes the truth is inconvenient and has to be ignored.  However, sometimes a simple metric isn't sufficient to accurately capture reality due to a variety of variables which influence the data.   In such cases, the data have to be conditioned through a detailed analysis of the variables to preclude false conclusions.  But in this case, the truth is probably inconvenient.  

 

If the NCAA did have graduation rate information, they could use the information to "encourage" schools to meet goals.  There are probably some smart people at the NCAA who could figure out how to incentivize an increase in graduation rates properly.  But then the schools would "game" the process and the graduates would still not have received an appropriate level of academic accomplishment.  Human nature cannot be denied - cheaters will always cheat and Michigan will always "Michigan".  M-GO BLOW ME!



   
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