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(@rip)
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Maybe I'm a little cynical or perhaps a conspiracy theorist, but the NCAA"s new transfer rules seem to amount to free agency for college football.  Can this be a ploy to defuse the issue of paying players?  Just thinking out loud.



   
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(@notrelame11)
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The rules are the same it is now they created a transfer portal in which it makes it easier for players to see their options. 



   
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Who in the name of John Wayne's a$$ came up with the name "transfer portal"??  What is this.....Startrek??  I know im an aged curmudgeon but I'm confused by it all.  Im ok with graduate transfers, and guys leaving early for the big show if they think they have a chance to make some money but anything else is just quitting on your team and quitting on your self.  The more you quit, the easier it becomes the next time.    I assume JF will probably pick a few off the waiver wire at some point but I'd have a lot more respect for him if he kindly said "thanks but no thanks, we're gonna dance with the ones that brung us".  



   
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Posted by: Tsuga

Who in the name of John Wayne's a$$ came up with the name "transfer portal"??  What is this.....Startrek??  I know im an aged curmudgeon but I'm confused by it all.  Im ok with graduate transfers, and guys leaving early for the big show if they think they have a chance to make some money but anything else is just quitting on your team and quitting on your self.  The more you quit, the easier it becomes the next time.    I assume JF will probably pick a few off the waiver wire at some point but I'd have a lot more respect for him if he kindly said "thanks but no thanks, we're gonna dance with the ones that brung us".  

I'd like to see anyone go up to Russell Wilson and call him a quitter.



   
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Posted by: roaminglion
Posted by: Tsuga

Who in the name of John Wayne's a$$ came up with the name "transfer portal"??  What is this.....Startrek??  I know im an aged curmudgeon but I'm confused by it all.  Im ok with graduate transfers, and guys leaving early for the big show if they think they have a chance to make some money but anything else is just quitting on your team and quitting on your self.  The more you quit, the easier it becomes the next time.    I assume JF will probably pick a few off the waiver wire at some point but I'd have a lot more respect for him if he kindly said "thanks but no thanks, we're gonna dance with the ones that brung us".  

I'd like to see anyone go up to Russell Wilson and call him a quitter.

Send him my way.  I'll be the first.



   
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Posted by: Tsuga
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Who in the name of John Wayne's a$$ came up with the name "transfer portal"??  What is this.....Startrek??  I know im an aged curmudgeon but I'm confused by it all.  Im ok with graduate transfers, and guys leaving early for the big show if they think they have a chance to make some money but anything else is just quitting on your team and quitting on your self.  The more you quit, the easier it becomes the next time.    I assume JF will probably pick a few off the waiver wire at some point but I'd have a lot more respect for him if he kindly said "thanks but no thanks, we're gonna dance with the ones that brung us".  

I'd like to see anyone go up to Russell Wilson and call him a quitter.

Send him my way.  I'll be the first.

That would certainly be interesting, I must say. 



   
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Posted by: roaminglion
Posted by: Tsuga
Posted by: roaminglion
Posted by: Tsuga

Who in the name of John Wayne's a$$ came up with the name "transfer portal"??  What is this.....Startrek??  I know im an aged curmudgeon but I'm confused by it all.  Im ok with graduate transfers, and guys leaving early for the big show if they think they have a chance to make some money but anything else is just quitting on your team and quitting on your self.  The more you quit, the easier it becomes the next time.    I assume JF will probably pick a few off the waiver wire at some point but I'd have a lot more respect for him if he kindly said "thanks but no thanks, we're gonna dance with the ones that brung us".  

I'd like to see anyone go up to Russell Wilson and call him a quitter.

Send him my way.  I'll be the first.

That would certainly be interesting, I must say. 

It would probably look something like this...



   
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(@cohappy)
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Wilson was released by NCState because he went to spring Training before his senior season.  Tom Obrien did not like it and released him.  



   
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Posted by: Cohappy

Wilson was released by NCState because he went to spring Training before his senior season.  Tom Obrien did not like it and released him.  

Back then a coach had to release you in order to Transfer, you couldn't transfer otherwise. From what I've read Wilson requested the transfer and O'Brien then released him. You are right though, the relationship was strained by baseball and Wilson's perceived commitment to Football.



   
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(@tsuga)
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Didnt Wilson also have his degree when he was released??



   
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(@navylion)
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Looks like Safety Ayron Monroe transferring after he graduates after this semester.

https://onwardstate.com/2019/01/15/penn-state-safety-ayron-monroe-to-transfer/



   
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(@cavensprawl)
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Yup, was just about to post that.

https://twitter.com/ay_ronnyron/status/1085282480192655365?s=20



   
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I looked to see if he graduated but cold not find it yes or no



   
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(@mb3)
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Looks like PS is running ahead of the pack for the number of players entering the Transfer Portal. Anyone with a suspicious mind would think that something is amiss in Happy Valley. "Penn State is now expected to lose three of the six players listed at its two safety spots on the team’s depth chart." Anyone who glosses over that point by finds it acceptable should not be taken seriously. 



   
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I am seeing that a few other PSU players are going to enter as well.  I'd be curious to see a team by team list of how many people have entered the portal.

It does seem PSU is leading the way which does add legs to the "all is not well in NitVille" crowd. 



   
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Here are the players who have publicly announced they are taking the leap this year, along with schools they are leaving and the schools they've chosen. Source

Quarterback

  • Kelly Bryant, Clemson to Missouri
  • Justin Fields, Georgia to Ohio State
  • Ben Hicks, SMU to Arkansas
  • Johnny Langan, Boston College to Rutgers
  • Devon Modster, UCLA to Cal
  • Riley Neal, Ball State to Vanderbilt
  • Shawn Robinson, TCU to Missouri
  • Jordan Travis, Louisville to Florida State
  • Jack Tuttle, Utah to Indiana

Undecided

  • Ross Bowers, Cal
  • Jalen Hurts, Alabama
  • De'Andre Johnson, FAU
  • Austin Kendall, Oklahoma
  • Tate Martell, Ohio State
  • Johnny Pabst, Indiana
  • Ty Storey, Arkansas

Running back

  • James Gilbert, Ball State to Kansas State

Undecided

  • Trey Sneed, Rutgers to Fordham
  • Greg Bell, Nebraska
  • Riley Burt, BYU
  • Mitch McNutt, Illinois
  • Craig Nelson, Indiana
  • Ikechukwu Ogwuegbu, Maryland
  • Amir Rasul, Florida State

Wide receiver

  • A.D. Miller, Oklahoma to Illinois
  • K.J. Osborn, Buffalo to Miami
  • Jeff Thomas, Miami to Illinois

Undecided

  • Irvin Charles, Penn State
  • Charlie Fessler, Northwestern
  • Benaiah Franklin, Purdue
  • Carmoni Green, Illinois
  • Justin McGriff, Nebraska
  • Keith Mixon, Mississippi State
  • Sean Savoy, Virginia Tech

Tight end

  • Tyler Davis, UConn to Georgia Tech
  • Luke Ford, Georgia to Illinois
  • Jalen Harris, Auburn to Colorado

Undecided

  • Austin Dorris, Indiana
  • Lou Dorsey, Illinois
  • Branden Hohenstein, Nebraska
  • Eli Wolf, Tennessee

Offensive line

  • Nathan Eldridge, Arizona to Oregon State
  • Tommy Kennedy, Butler to Miami

Undecided

  • Zeke Martin, Illinois
  • R.J. Proctor, Virginia
  • Drew Richmond, Tennessee
  • Reuben Unije, Illinois

Defensive line

  • Darrion Daniels, Oklahoma State to Nebraska
  • Miles Fox, Old Dominion to Wake Forest
  • Cameron Goode, Virginia Tech to UCF
  • Jonathan Greenard, Louisville to Florida
  • Aubrey Solomon, Michigan to Tennessee

Undecided

  • Zach Abercrumbia, Rice
  • Malik Barrow Ohio State
  • Trevon Hill, Virginia Tech

Linebacker

  • Drew Singleton, Michigan to Rutgers

Undecided

  • Oluwole Betiku Jr., USC
  • Dae'Lun Darien, Penn State
  • Rico Kearney, Virginia Tech
  • Aaron Mends, Iowa
  • Jaelan Phillips, UCLA
  • Guy Thomas, Nebraska

Defensive back

  • Bubba Bolden, USC to Miami (via junior college)
  • Jonathan Greenard, Duke to UCF
  • Isaiah Humphries, Penn State to Cal

Undecided

  • Jarius Adams, Rutgers
  • Trey Creamer, Iowa
  • Zaire Jones, Vanderbilt
  • Qwuantrezz Knight, Maryland
  • Jack Leius, Minnesota
  • Marcus Lewis, Maryland
  • Bennett Williams, Illinois


   
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Seeing some sites posting that TE Danny Dalton and OL Alex Gellerstedt are in the transfer Portal. 

 



   
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(@navylion)
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 according to Lions247.

Tight end Danny Dalton and offensive tackle Alex Gellerstedt are both exploring their options, the outlet reports citing a source. 

So I believe that brings the transfer total to 7. If you click on the according to lions247 above you can read the article 



   
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I thought at first this was no big deal.  But it has morphed into something else.  This look's like a house cleaning of sorts.  Maybe they are pushing out guys who do not want to commit to being elite.  If so, ok.  But who really knows but the insiders?  We can just speculate.



   
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Now I'm starting to get confused.  Can PSU sign more than 25 players in a year if it wants to get to the max of 85 ?  



   
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(@roaminglion)
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I've seen Ayron Monroe's name out there as well.



   
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(@trick7)
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I was wondering the same thing. After all these players leave we will be down to possibly only 73 schollies with 7 max to get to 25 this year we will still be 5 short on scholarships with 80.



   
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Posted by: psumark

Now I'm starting to get confused.  Can PSU sign more than 25 players in a year if it wants to get to the max of 85 ?  

In a year? Yes. In each class? No.

Essentially teams are limited to 25 players per class, but can "manipulate" that number with some loopholes. Early enroll players "Greenshirts" are one way... 

If Penn State had 20 players in the 2018 recruiting class, they could technically bring in 30 players right now. How? 5 of our early enrollees could be attributed to the 2018 class, bringing it's number up to 25 and 2019's number down to 25. The player's eligibility isn't affected, so they still get all the time anyone else gets.

There is also Blue-shirting... Basically it's a player who wasn't recruited but you put on scholarship. That means a kid who didn't take any official visits to your school, and wasn't offered or sent a NLI form could enroll, be put on scholarship, and be counted against the next year's total. Essentially they took unofficial visits to your school and everyone knew they were coming. Like handshake players. No very common.

Also Grey-shirting. Essentially it's a reverse early enroll, where a kid isn't on scholarship for the fall semester but attends school part-time so his eligibility doesn't start. In the spring, they are put on scholarship and counted like a blueshirt against the next year's class total.



   
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They are also known to give a few to walk on players. Looking at the list it’s still all guys that would pretty much be 2nd/3rd team guys OR grads that want to go somewhere and start.  



   
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Posted by: billmurray

They are also known to give a few to walk on players. Looking at the list it’s still all guys that would pretty much be 2nd/3rd team guys OR grads that want to go somewhere and start.  

So, why is PS being being hit a lot harder than other schools? There are countless of players at other schools in the same position but you don't see them fleeing. And please try to refrain using the sanctions as an excuse. 



   
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