They hire a new Bball coach and the top players enter the transfer portal immediately.... which I just hate this transfer portal thing! What, you get a new boss so you quit your job? What the heck are we teaching these young kids? And why wouldn't you keep Ferry when all of the players liked him? Whatever!
And then....first year Penn State students will get to go to the Blue White game this year??? What about the Sr's that supported this team through thick and thin for 4 years? Maybe give them one more chance to be at Beaver Stadium before they graduate? The Sr's didn't get to go to a game last year. The freshman have 3 more years to go games assuming fans are allowed this season.
Maybe it is just me, but Penn State just never seems to get it right! Look out Joe, you may get fired again and lose your 409 games! Good grief Penn State, use your noggin for once!
No, it's not just you. PSU Admin (BOT) decision making capability is suffering from the effects of how they handled the Sandusky debacle and what they did to JoePa. They are doomed to repeating their idiocy!
Did y’all see where an ex Duke basketball player wants the players to sit out the tournament until the ncaa gets a bill passed so the players can get paid I’m assuming. I use to be for paying the players but after all the stuff I’ve watched the past year I’ve changed my mind if the kids don’t want to play for a scholarship let them go do something else if they’re good enough for the NBA or NFL let them try and play and when 99.8% of the players that try and don’t make it this problem will fix itself in 3 to 5 years then they’ll be happy to play for a scholarship. Just ole southerns opinion I could be wrong. They either want to play for a scholarship or they don’t let the young men and women make up their own minds.
Absolutely, Southern. The problem as I see it is most kids coming out of HS only think of college as a stopover on the way to their dream of a pro career. They aren't looking to "play school". That's why they don't see any value in a scholarship and therefor feel they should be payed for their services.
They hire a new Bball coach and the top players enter the transfer portal immediately.... which I just hate this transfer portal thing! What, you get a new boss so you quit your job? What the heck are we teaching these young kids? And why wouldn't you keep Ferry when all of the players liked him? Whatever!
And then....first year Penn State students will get to go to the Blue White game this year??? What about the Sr's that supported this team through thick and thin for 4 years? Maybe give them one more chance to be at Beaver Stadium before they graduate? The Sr's didn't get to go to a game last year. The freshman have 3 more years to go games assuming fans are allowed this season.
Maybe it is just me, but Penn State just never seems to get it right! Look out Joe, you may get fired again and lose your 409 games! Good grief Penn State, use your noggin for once!
So what exactly were we "teaching" coaches when they were quitting after one year, or leaving kids after a few years before their contract is up, or leaving for a new job AFTER recruiting is done... or even some leaving 14 days being hired for a "better" job?
Why is everyone so pissed that kids can leave, but had no issues with coaches playing musical chairs for years? We only hold 18-22 year olds to that high standard? IMO what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
@roaminglion. I agree roam, if the coaches can leave let the kids leave all I ask is all teams are playing by the same rules. Maybe put a limit with 1 transfer without sitting because the kids are students when coaching is a professional job so there’s a little difference
I wonder how many students leave after their Econ professor moves on to a more prestigious position?
I've been saying forever that millenials will destroy this country and they are definitely doing it. Sadly their kids have even less desire to work and earn things than they do.
@psujoe. I don’t know remoh before the pandemic the unemployment rate was in the 3% if I remember right so most people were working we just have to many people counting other peoples blessings IMO and that ain’t good and there’s other reasons as well but this ain’t the place to talk about it lol
I hear you and I don't disagree with what you are saying. I just think the transfer portal has made it too easy on these kids and they are not learning what commitment means and what hard work means. I think they need to go back to the old way of having to sit out one year if you transfer.
I don't know Roam, I just don't think most kids today don't know how to spell STRUGGLE and what the meaning is.
I wonder how many students leave after their Econ professor moves on to a more prestigious position?
I wonder how many econ professors recruit students personally? None? Right.
I hear you and I don't disagree with what you are saying. I just think the transfer portal has made it too easy on these kids and they are not learning what commitment means and what hard work means. I think they need to go back to the old way of having to sit out one year if you transfer.
I don't know Roam, I just don't think most kids today don't know how to spell STRUGGLE and what the meaning is.
Why would they if the adults could care less about struggling through anything either? Again, why are we holding 18-22 year olds to a higer standard than 60 year old coaches who leave at the drop of a hat if the gettin's good.
You want to know why "kids today" don't know what struggle is? Because the adults in the room showed them to cut bait and run when another oppurtunity presents itself. We should stop pointing the finger at them and look at those they are learning from. Coaches did not change jobs at the drop of a hat 40 years ago, and no one complained when it started happening. Now that the kids are doing it, all of a sudden it's a big deal and they don't have proper work ethic?
Search this forum, every single assistant that has left in the past 3-4 years gets a "Hope he does well". Why? How's it different from what these kids are doing? Why is it a terrible thing for a kid to say "hey, I could go to a better Bball program at MSU", but when a coach says "I could go coach receivers at Alabama" it's all "wish him well"???
Why should we hold the 18-22 year old's at a higher standard? So they don't become those 60 years old that you mentioned. Coaches should have to sign a "noncompete letter" for one year. THAT would slow a lot of this down.
@southern-psu-fan I've heard money can't buy you love, but it can rent you a pretty good time!
Coaches are professionals, by and large in it for the money (except, notably JoePa). The kids are amateurs, supposedly in it for a free education. Personally, I can't rationalize the kids jumping around because the coaches do it. I know I'm not going to change your mind and I'm not trying to. I'm just offering my opinion (for what it's worth). I don't wish all the coaches who leave well wishes. I have commented "don't let the door hit you on the way out" quite a few times, LOL.
@been-there-ii. Ain’t nothing wrong with money BT and ain’t nothing wrong with having a bunch of it as long as you don’t love it and personally I don’t love it but I sure do like it lol
Coaches are professionals, by and large in it for the money (except, notably JoePa). The kids are amateurs, supposedly in it for a free education. Personally, I can't rationalize the kids jumping around because the coaches do it. I know I'm not going to change your mind and I'm not trying to. I'm just offering my opinion (for what it's worth). I don't wish all the coaches who leave well wishes. I have commented "don't let the door hit you on the way out" quite a few times, LOL.
I don't agree that amateurs should be held to higher standards than professionals. These are 18 year old kids that for some reason we are treating like it's the end of the world if they transfer to another school. I mean, why does anyone care? Is it really "to teach these kids work ethic"... or mainly just because we think it's going to hurt our chances to win? I mean, really... Why is letting a kid transfer to another school the hill we are choosing to die on? I don't care if some 19 year old decides Kentucky is a better spot for him than Penn State. More power to him, good luck.
What we should be focused on is paying players. Which IS bad. They should get the cost of attendance and nothing more. If you want to get paid, BECOME A PROFESSIONAL. Go to the NFL or up to Canada. In basketball, the NBA should do it like the MLB: You can go straight out of high school if you want, but if you go to college then you are ineligible for the draft for 3 years. No one in baseball is crying about players getting paid, etc. because it's a good system and gives the kids a choice.
That's all I'm saying, we should pick our battles and paying players IMO is the real issue. Transferring will just change the landscape a little bit, and coaches will adjust (they already have) to it while it becomes a recruiting tool. Other sports already do it, and have for years so I guess that's my real confusion... why does everyone think it's going to kill football and basketball when practically every other sport in college already allows it anyway? Paying the players is a much more dangerous problem IMO.
Agree with you 100% on paying players.....bad,bad,bad! Agree to disagree on transfers. Too much potential to hurt the integrity of the game, IMO.
@roaminglion For me, it's more about change than anything. The average person does not want change unless they can absolutely see the benefits outweigh the negatives. Do I like it? No. Will I eventually get used to it? Yes. I'm not real excited about coaches playing musical teams either.
I'm 100% behind letting "kids", if they're good enough, go directly into pro sports. Although I don't know that there are many who could physically compete on the same level as a pro football player directly out of high school.
While were tossing ideas around, I wouldn't mind if college football players could "test the market interest" as it were, like basketball players can. If they don't get much interest in the draft, as long as they didn't sign, they can come back and play their remaining eligibility.
Agree with you 100% on paying players.....bad,bad,bad! Agree to disagree on transfers. Too much potential to hurt the integrity of the game, IMO.
Why have most other sports been able to deal with transfers then? What makes basketball and football so different? Why would the integrity of the game be threatened by allowing kids to play immediately rather than sit?
I don’t see an issue that would otherwise not be present.
I've been saying forever that millenials will destroy this country and they are definitely doing it. Sadly their kids have even less desire to work and earn things than they do.
Majority of the kids today don't have a clue what hard work is. Hand them a shovel and a pick and they look at you sideways as if you had 3 eyes.
@roaminglion. Roam, is it fair to say it takes longer to get kids ready for college football coming out of high school than any other sport because it’s a lot more physical? Football is a different sports game than all other sports. Coming out of high school it’s easier to start competing in basketball, wrestling, baseball and all the other sports football takes more time to get ready for so maybe that’s why the NCAA don’t wants players jumping ship without having to sit a year. Also has the NFL ever had a hand in it on how football is done at the college level?
@forum-titan. Last time somebody handed me a shovel I hit a dude in the head with it on a job site and it knocked him off his feet and believe it or not that chithead got back up and punched ole southern here it the nose and broke my nose but I was able to get back up and take that sucker down. It’s a long story why that brawl happened but trust me brother it was a bloody brawl for the both of us. I only worked there that one day and they didn’t even pay me lol
@southern-psu-fan haha I sure hope there's more to it than him handing you a shovel.
