@psujoe I punished Clemson this week because the jackets hung with ‘em I’m not talking Ga Tech up they stink thanks to Geoff Collins that dude needs to be shown the door. You have to base rankings on something until we get a few games in. Bottom line is the SEC dominates other conferences in bowl games so given A&M the benefit of the doubt over an average Iowa and PAC is just fine until these teams can beat the SEC in bowl games. Go check out what Ohio States record is against the SEC in bowl games and they got drilled last year by the Tide. The rankings are fun and y’all know it.
Who referred to Switzer as Barry Swizzle stick?
I might be wrong, guys, the memory is not what it used to be, but somewhere, maybe at an alumni banquet, I thought ole JoePa referred to Switzer as Barry Swizzle Stick.
The bowl games mean nothing...The better players sit out and don't even play...Lets talk about this year...This year is what matters...These players move on and teams change year to year...What's going on THIS year...I know A&M went out to Colorado and should have got beat...I KNOW Minnesota went out there and drilled the same Colorado team 30-0...The same Minnesota team that got knocked around by Ohio State in their own building...The same Ohio State team that Oregon beat up in their building...All I know is the SEC went out of conference to play a handful of power 5 conference teams they got beat...Bama beat a below average Miami team and Georgia beat a below average Clemson team...Auburn and LSU went on the road and got their ears knocked off...These games count and aren't meaningless bowl games...A&M wouldn't be a .500 team in the B1G and especially in the B1G east division...
@psujoe I punished Clemson this week because the jackets hung with ‘em I’m not talking Ga Tech up they stink thanks to Geoff Collins that dude needs to be shown the door. You have to base rankings on something until we get a few games in. Bottom line is the SEC dominates other conferences in bowl games so given A&M the benefit of the doubt over an average Iowa and PAC is just fine until these teams can beat the SEC in bowl games. Go check out what Ohio States record is against the SEC in bowl games and they got drilled last year by the Tide. The rankings are fun and y’all know it.
The polls are supposed to be based on 2021 results, not what happened last year. You watch way too much ESPiN.
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until enough games are played we have to rank the teams on what teams have coming back, what their record was last year and how good the teams have been recruiting. College football is not the NFL we have rankings in college football because there’s so many teams. I do watch some espn and the big 10 network and I listen to 680 the fan here in Atlanta plus I watch some of the games on Saturday. Very few players sit out during bowls games and it’s usually the SEC players sitting out anyway and they still beat the big 10 teams last year Ohio State got drilled by Alabama both teams were at their best. We discussed bowl games last year and if you go back you’ll see I was right about most of the meaningful games. If y’all think Clemson is an below average team then that’s on y’all but I’m telling ya, y’all are wrong Clemson is still a top 10 team. Clemson didn’t get beat at home it was Ohio State that got beat at home. Go look at the NFL rosters and you’ll see why the SEC is the best conference. Y’all need to stop watching them fake sports stations lol come on guys lol
Personally I don’t think James Franklin will leave for USC but Penn State should give him a raise to not take a chance plus he deserves to be paid with the big dawg coaches. But if he did leave would our new OC get the job? I say yes going on what I’ve seen so far?
until enough games are played we have to rank the teams on what teams have coming back, what their record was last year and how good the teams have been recruiting. College football is not the NFL we have rankings in college football because there’s so many teams. I do watch some espn and the big 10 network and I listen to 680 the fan here in Atlanta plus I watch some of the games on Saturday. Very few players sit out during bowls games and it’s usually the SEC players sitting out anyway and they still beat the big 10 teams last year Ohio State got drilled by Alabama both teams were at their best. We discussed bowl games last year and if you go back you’ll see I was right about most of the meaningful games. If y’all think Clemson is an below average team then that’s on y’all but I’m telling ya, y’all are wrong Clemson is still a top 10 team. Clemson didn’t get beat at home it was Ohio State that got beat at home. Go look at the NFL rosters and you’ll see why the SEC is the best conference. Y’all need to stop watching them fake sports stations lol come on guys lol
OK by your way of thinking just put the same teams in the playoff every year and let the rest play in meaningless bowl games. And also by your way of thinking PSU does not belong in the top 10 so why do you have them in the top 4?
Penn State beat Wisconsin on the road and Auburn at home that’s enough for me to see they’re better than Clemson, Georgia and A&M. Alabama is defending NC and they have a win at the swamp that’s why I have Alabama #1 and Penn State #2. I can see where Oregon could be in that 4th or 5th spot it’s just my opinion that they can’t beat Florida or A&M but to be honest I didn’t know A&M QB was out the rest of the year. Clemson got beat and I dropped them and I don’t think Oklahoma is a top 5 team after watching a few games.
@southern-psu-fan ..Southern, my man ...You say its early in year, and you have to consider last yr, yet you elevate PSU to no. 2 based on beating Auburn?..Auburn is coming off a mediocre 6-5 year, fired the head coach, and is in midst of trying to rebuild its program...Auburn is picked 4th/5th, SEC West by LIndy's /Athlon respectively it's a fair to middlin program right now, a nice win for sure , but a highly competitive win against a middle of the pack SEC team..There's a reason two 2's were next to their rank, not one 2...
Greg McElroy, on the Paul Finebaum show, said exactly that, and is incurring the wrath of PSU fans for putting the win in perspective..PSU is definitely not in top 5 right now, the pollsters , if anyone , have it right Ive said it consistently, the writers, (AP) do as good a job as anyone at keeping it real...
Says an Alabama player lol come on CT. there’s a guy on espn said Penn State should be #1 based on what we have seen so far plus we’ve won 7 straight games. Clemson ain’t got the QB to beat us and Oklahoma just ain’t good enough to beat us and Iowa and Oregon are middleweight teams. I guess maybe Georgia could run with us but that’s about it baby. We’ve got the 2 best wins of the season and Alabama has the best win of the season so I’m giving Alabama the benefit of the doubt to be #1 because they deserve it. Lot of football left brother we’ll see what happens. BTW it doesn’t take time to rebuild Auburn they just need a coach and they’ll win. CT, I just to see ND climbing high enough to be ranked where the big dawgs play lol
To say that mainly the SEC guys sit out for bowl games is laughable...Penn State had their best defensive player sit for the whole season last year...EVERY program that has NFL talent has kids sit bowl games for fear of injury...I put no stock in bowl games as far as how strong a team or conference is...Regular Season games are a whole different story...As far as Auburn is concerned I believe they will win 9 games and possibly 10 games this year...They certainly are a better win than Miami, Clemson et al...Clemson is in a weak sister conference this year and may lose 2 or 3 games...Notre Dame's win over Flordia State in O.T. speaks volumes as well...Look at that team...McElroy is an SEC homer...Did you read his column regarding who should be in the CFP? He has Ole Miss at #5...That guy is the biggest joke of em all...I will go out on a big limb (Sarcasm meant) and guarantee that Auburn knocks off one of the big teams from the SEC this year...They play Georgia and Bama at home...My guess is those will be very close games and don't be shocked if Auburn don't win one of em...They are a veteran team which had a solid recruiting year the last 2 years as well...What was Penn State supposed to do the year McSorley and Penn State won the B1G? I am sure Lindy's/Athlon didn't predict them to be in the top half of the conference that year either...Pre Season rankings mean nothing...Play the games and accept the results...The shills at ESPN and the SEC have a problem doing that because they have a preconceived notion of who they want in and devil be damned they are going to do what they have to do to make it happen...Many of these power house teams are in transition right now...They have 1st year QB's and are learning real fast that you just don't plug and play people and it's an automatic win...Veteran teams matter...If anybody has proven that over the last decade it's been Villanova's basketball program...Decide the games on the field and accept the results...Officiate the games fairly and let the athletes decide...
@the-funeral-director I’m a huge believer in the NFL FD. Did you see all the NFL guys from the SEC? That tells you all you need to know about the SEC and why they’ve been dominating college football the last 25 years. Also look at the Tide players in the NFL that tells me why slick Nick is winning all those NC’s. The NFL is eat up with SEC players and the results don’t lie brother. Did you see the article?
Penn State beat Wisconsin on the road and Auburn at home that’s enough for me to see they’re better than Clemson, Georgia and A&M. Alabama is defending NC and they have a win at the swamp that’s why I have Alabama #1 and Penn State #2. I can see where Oregon could be in that 4th or 5th spot it’s just my opinion that they can’t beat Florida or A&M but to be honest I didn’t know A&M QB was out the rest of the year. Clemson got beat and I dropped them and I don’t think Oklahoma is a top 5 team after watching a few games.
Lol... One way of thinking for one team and another for all others. Your rankings are a fraud.
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@southern-psu-fan smart of you southern to focus on the Bama guy, but ignore my first para which had he FACTS about the state of the Auburn program....
In any event, speaking of the NFL,and your comments, it never ceases to amaze me the talent level in the NFL....Im very happy the EAGLES drafted Devonta Smith, I think he'll be a very good pro..I attended Eagles -49ers, VERY GOOD SEAT ...As you know, Smith broke in last week, with a very good game vs your Birds, something like 6 recepts, maybe 80 yds.. I mean this guy ran wild last yr, all the way to the Heisman....Not so sunday, Niners back covered him like a blanket, 2 catches, 16 yds I didnt think it was possible WELCOME TO THE NFL..
Reminded me of the analyst who said , "see those 2-3 guys on a college defense with great speed; in the NFL its everyone..
@culture-thrives I’m with you about the NFL. You show me a teams putting guys in the NFL every year and I’ll show you teams winning a lot of football games. The NFL is the hardest sports league to make in the world because you have to do everything right. I was telling FD look at that article I put up a few lost back on how many players Alabama has in the NFL today a d you’ll know why he’s winning all those games and NC’s.
Well I will take issue with almost everything you have stated Southern...#1 the toughest league to make it in is the NBA...Each team has about a 15 team roster...As for your NFL reasoning as to why teams are great...Again I am going to use a college basketball program to make my point...Villanova has won more games the last 10 years than any other team in college basketball...They have won 2 of the last 5 national championships...Villanova and the Big East conference doesn't have the most players in the NBA...HOWEVER Villanova has players that stick around for 4 years (There are exceptions but they are few and far between)...They usually have a veteran team with a seasoned point guard and as a result of being in the program for 3 or 4 years they grow and mature...They usually beat the younger teams with the superstars that go to the NBA...They rarely get the flashy 5* recruit but they develop the 3* & 4* recruits...Once again I don't give a rip who has the most players going to the pro's...It means nothing...You line up and play the games...No benefit of the doubt...No eye test...You PLAY the game...Somebody wins & somebody loses...The winner moves on and the loser goes home...The problem with this system is the conference champions don't move on so some conference loser can move on because of the "eye test"...This ain't a beauty pageant or figure skating competition...You keep score in football...In my opinion if you can't win your conference you don't deserve to be in a 4 team tournament for the National Championship...We have 5 power conferences and 4 of those conference champions should be playing for the championship every year...Strength of schedule should matter and that should be determined by the records of said teams at the END of the season not week to week so you can inflate these teams strength of schedule to manipulate the system which is what they are doing...Why does Alabama get credit for beating a #14 Miami and Michigan States win not count just as much? They both beat the same team which I said from day one wasn't even a top 20 team...You are right there is a lot of football left to play...The games have to matter and who loses is out and who wins is in...A conference champion with 1 loss should always get the nod over a one loss team that didn't win their conference championship...It's as simple as that..
One final point...They use the same tactics year after year...They pack the top 10 with 5 SEC teams so no matter who wins or loses they have an excuse to keep somebody ranked high cause they lost to a top 5 or 10 team and the winner beat a top 5 or 10 team...How has the SEC done so far in out of conference games? They beat 2 ACC teams that were overrated...LSU got beat by UCLA and Auburn got beat by PSU...Southern Miss got beat by Memphis State...Right now the ACC has been a joke and the SEC has been underwhelming out of conference...The B1G and the PAC 12 have had the best out of conference wins...Those are the facts and the games have to matter...Lets see how the rest of the season plays out...In my opinion the B1G is the best conference and the B1G east division is the toughest in college football...It is going to be tough for any of these teams to navigate the season in this conference and go unbeaten...I believe Oregon and Oklahoma will win out and be undefeated conference champs...Whoever comes out of the B1G as the conference champ will probably have a loss...There is no way a 1 loss conference champ should be kept out of the playoff for a 1 loss team that didn't win their conference...
@the-funeral-director I didn’t say Miami was a good win I said Florida was a great win in the swamp and just because Alabama has been winning a lot of NC’s the last 10 years included destroying Ohio State last year they deserve to be #1 until somebody beats ‘em. Go check and see what the Tide did to Michigan State back a few years ago when Michigan State won the big 10, 38-0 if I remember right and that’s what happens when you send lightweights to the playoffs or you might get 31-0 when you send the 2nd best team in the big 10 to the playoffs. I agree with you on a lot of stuff you say FD but when it comes to the heavyweights of the SEC you’re not giving them credit they deserve. FD, Ohio State wins a game once in a blue moon against the heavyweights of the SEC most of the time they get destroyed and so does Oklahoma, ND,Oregon, Washington and Texas, it is what it is until somebody does something about like Clemson.
