The team that really got screwed this year is Coastal Carolina in my humble opinion...You woulda thought they would have learned their lesson after the UCF debacle...The SEC and ACC bias is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful...Who did A&M beat? Look at their schedule...Bama beat a team by 6 pts. with 3 losses...Bama gave up how many pts to Ole Miss again? I find it hilarious how the narrative changes...When Bama had the great defensive teams defense won championships now that they have a porous defense that couldn't stop a clock defenses don't matter anymore...I find the whole thing hilarious...What's sad is how short peoples memories are and how easily the propaganda machine can sway the narrative to fit their agendas...I want someone to explain to me how Indiana's 1 loss season is any less significant or impressive as any of the other power 5 teams 1 loss season is? Why is an undefeated Coastal Carolina any less worthy of being in the playoff than a 1 loss Notre Dame team that was embarrassed in their conference final game? The only reason I can think of is 2 fold...First and foremost is that they and everybody except the die hard Notre Dame fan knows that Notre Dame doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning that game...ZERO chance and Coastal Carolina is a wild card team that could shatter the myth...#2 is ratings...Notre Dame has the eyeballs...It's that simple...It's a propaganda coup for all involved...Why is Indiana less deserving than Notre Dame? They only have 1 loss...By a touchdown to the #3 ranked team in their building...They haven't been blown out or embarrassed and they have one of the best defenses in the country...Why not see how their D stands up to Bama's offense? Again they may just give em a game and the myth would be shattered...If these teams only play with themselves the myth can continue on...The funny thing is Coastal Carolina ain't the one ducking games...It's the Bama's of the world who don't seem to eager to play these teams...Wonder why?
@the-funeral-director. Just trying to remember FD but I think the Tide destroyed Michigan State, Washington and ND and all these 3 teams are much better than Indiana and CC because they have had better players. You can’t put these lightweights in the playoffs because they’ll get destroyed. Michigan State had a pretty good defense back in 2015 and look what Alabama did to ‘em 38-0 and they’ll beat Indiana and CC worse than that if they want too. Even when you send the 2nd best team from the big 10 to the playoffs, look what happens..Clemson 31 Ohio st 0. It’s nitty gritty time when the playoffs get here and that’s just a couple of examples of why lightweights or teams that don’t belong in the playoffs. Look how many SEC teams are in bowls this year and you’ll see in the end they’ll probably dominate again.
@tsuga..Catching up with you Tsuga, we agree on one thing, the CFP Committee got it right, as they usually do...and it was unanimous , the writers/coaches agreed so Id conclude there was consensus..
Id also say this, what Bama, Clemson are doing to the sport is not good/healthy for the game...TV guy JIm Nantz weighed in on this recently, and said interest in the college game is really waning, much to his chagrin, he loves CF..Another TV talking head said the 8 team playoff is coming, not so much because the CFP wants it, but its COVID-19 driven, colleges looking to make up revenue.
As for NDs slim to none chance, the great Bear Bryant was 0-4 against ND; all games he had the higher ranked team..Two of those games he was undefeated going into the bowl, with regular season ending nos. 1 and 2 rankings respectively.. So, there is always hope..
The CFP going to 8 teams would revitalize interest in the game IMO. Right now there is a lot of animosity towards the CFP due to preceived bias. Certain teams getting the benefit of the doubt and so on. An 8 team playoff removes that:
- It evens the playing field for every Power 5 team. Want in? Win the conference, it's that simple.
- It gives the Group of 5 an avenue to get in, but I still don't think every conference deserves a spot. At that point you are just rewarding teams for playing in bad conferences. I still think they should fight it out for that 1 spot. The MAC is just not on the level as the Big 10. Sure, there are upsets but not many. All computer models also show the disparity. Is what it is, certainly better than never getting any team in.
- It also still allows debate for "wild card" teams, but not at the expense of another Power 5 conference champ.
- I believe it alters recruiting. I think right now many recruits see what teams have a chance to get in, and go there. Going to this way allows teams an even playing field, and recruits will see that. More likely the non-power teams start being able to get those recruits if they see a legitimate chance to go to the CFP.
@roaminglion. 8 team playoff like you laid out is a great system Roam that way teams like Coastal Carolina and Indiana have a chance but with 4 teams it ain’t going to happen.
That won't happen in the near future...The powers at be want it this way and will do everything they can to protect their turf...There is no incentive for them to change...As far as "perceived bias" is concerned lets keep it real here...There is bias and it is blatant and obvious...The controlling interests have a business relationship with 2 conferences...The SEC and ACC are the sacred cows...Then you go into Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan...They love Notre Dame because they are overrated and they know Bama, Clemson etc will beat them like a drum over and over again...Coastal Carolina, UCF a few years back are a different story...They are an unknown who may just shatter the myth...I have gotten to the point where I have lost interest...I watch Penn State and then go on to other things after Penn State plays...I honestly have no interest in watching this garbage anymore...The questionable officiating to favor the sacred cows the minute they are in jeopardy of getting beat, the ridiculous rankings and the list goes on...The pro wrestling analogy is right on...It is all controlled and they dictate the outcome...honest competition is gone...It really isn't even a sport any longer...Watch these so called games and be intellectually honest about it...It's become a farce...
@the-funeral-director I agree with everything FD preaches!....almost. He said "they" like ND but failed to mention NBC and the exclusive broadcasting rights they have with that college and have existed since 1991. NBC is fights for the money just like espin and it's no coincidence their teams are the ones in the playoff.
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@the-funeral-director. FD, I agree with you on certain teams gettin favoritism they even change the rules for ‘em. Michigan and Ohio st are the only 2 teams in the big 10 they’d change the rules for that got Ohio St in the championship game. Ohio St and Alabama can lose and still slide in the playoffs. I always say some teams get a pass for losing and some teams don’t. I agree with you on this. Merry Christmas my friend
..Coastal Carolina, UCF a few years back are a different story...They are an unknown who may just shatter the myth...I have gotten to the point where I have lost interest...I watch Penn State and then go on to other things after Penn State plays...I honestly have no interest in watching this garbage anymore...The questionable officiating to favor the sacred cows the minute they are in jeopardy of getting beat, the ridiculous rankings and the list goes on...The pro wrestling analogy is right on...It is all controlled and they dictate the outcome...honest competition is gone...It really isn't even a sport any longer...Watch these so called games and be intellectually honest about it...It's become a farce...
No doubt that teams like CC and UCF are intentionally kept out because of the reason you mention, they don't want the myth that they've brainwashed people like Southern into believing destroyed because it would cost them billions!
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@psujoe. I ain’t brainwashed, y’all are just being delusional if you think CC and Indiana would hang in the playoffs. They would get demolished just like Washington, ND and Michigan State. If Clemson beats Ohio St 31-0 in the playoffs with Ohio St having 4.* and 5* players all over the field what makes y’all think Indiana and CC can hang? Ain’t happening Joe. Now I do believe they leave them out and they don’t have a chance to get in I’m just saying they’d get beat down if they got in.
@psujoe. I ain’t brainwashed, y’all are just being delusional if you think CC and Indiana would hang in the playoffs. They would get demolished just like Washington, ND and Michigan State. If Clemson beats Ohio St 31-0 in the playoffs with Ohio St having 4.* and 5* players all over the field what makes y’all think Indiana and CC can hang? Ain’t happening Joe. Now I do believe they leave them out and they don’t have a chance to get in I’m just saying they’d get beat down if they got in.
You obviously missed the point we're trying to make that eventually one of these teams would have punched through the myth that has been created by networks only worried about protecting their investment. And yes you are definitely brainwashed by ESPiN.
Seems like you've actually begun to believe the southern myth so much that you think the Falcons in the NFL are actually relevant.
@psujoe. The dirty birds ain’t relevant most years but teams from the south in college football has won the NC 23 of 30 years. I understand y’all frustration I don’t like the system either I think we need 8 teams all I’m saying is when you get to the top 4 teams and Alabama and Clemson is involved you can forget about lightweights knocking them off. Usually when a team like APP State knocks off a team like Michigan early in the year it usually means Michigan or any other big dawg team is average that year but when you get to the end of the season and Alabama, LSU or Clemson is undefeated or have 1 loss you can forget about the upset it ain’t going to happen. Remoh, look at what Clemson has done to Ohio St and look at what the Tide has done to ND, Michigan State and Washington ...just good ole fashion azz kickings. I agree with you and FD, the SEC teams get a pass if they lose a game when other teams don’t. Maybe they deserve it maybe they don’t but it is what it is. All these games were played and Clemson and Alabama beat the chit out of all the teams they played except when they played each other that ain’t no myth
@psujoe. The dirty birds ain’t relevant most years but teams from the south in college football has won the NC 23 of 30 years. I understand y’all frustration I don’t like the system either I think we need 8 teams all I’m saying is when you get to the top 4 teams and Alabama and Clemson is involved you can forget about lightweights knocking them off. Usually when a team like APP State knocks off a team like Michigan early in the year it usually means Michigan or any other big dawg team is average that year but when you get to the end of the season and Alabama, LSU or Clemson is undefeated or have 1 loss you can forget about the upset it ain’t going to happen. Remoh, look at what Clemson has done to Ohio St and look at what the Tide has done to ND, Michigan State and Washington ...just good ole fashion azz kickings. I agree with you and FD, the SEC teams get a pass if they lose a game when other teams don’t. Maybe they deserve it maybe they don’t but it is what it is. All these games were played and Clemson and Alabama beat the chit out of all the teams they played except when they played each other that ain’t no myth
There you go, coming strait from the closet SEC / Alabama Homer!! He’s not really a PSU fan, he just likes hanging out with the cool people here!!!!
@navylion. You got that right brother I’d rather not be on any forum than this one y’all are some great dudes to hang out with.
PSU & Ga Tech fan lol
Southern... You do this over and over again... I don't care what a team did in 2015...those kids that played in those games have all moved on... I am talking about THIS Year...THIS year I am not convinced that Coastal Carolina nor Indiana couldn't give Bama a game or even beat em... Cincy gets their shot against Georgia and I hope they knock em off...
Southern... You do this over and over again... I don't care what a team did in 2015...those kids that played in those games have all moved on... I am talking about THIS Year...THIS year I am not convinced that Coastal Carolina nor Indiana couldn't give Bama a game or even beat em... Cincy gets their shot against Georgia and I hope they knock em off... Of course it's a home game for Georgia but I would love to see Cincinnati beat em...
@the-funeral-director. Let’s just go back to last year when CC was 5-7 with probably the same players as this year. Their biggest win was garbage Kansas 12-7. I give ‘em credit for what they’ve done this year FD and this is a new year with their players probably better than last year but trying to put them up there with Alabama, ND, Clemson and Ohio St is crazy they’d get the living chit kicked out of ‘em. How many NFL guys to they have maybe one or two if that? Alabama, Clemson and Ohio St is loaded with NFL guys all over the field. Brother I’m telling ya, they’d get drilled in the ground in a 4 team playoff The intensity changes in the playoffs teams bring their A game heck even teams like Ohio St, Washington and ND that really don’t belong in the playoffs get the chit beat out of them and I promise you they have much better players and coaches and it ain’t even close. Cincinnati, CC and Indiana has had a really good season but let’s not get carried away in wanting them in the playoffs because they would all get destroyed.
I’m just giving you examples of the last 5 years good Ohio st, ND, Washington and Michigan State football teams that made it to the playoffs and got man handled and killed. These 4 teams were good and you can see how bad they got beat. Total best downs.
I’m just giving you examples of the last 5 years good Ohio st, ND, Washington and Michigan State football teams that made it to the playoffs and got man handled and killed. These 4 teams were good and you can see how bad they got beat. Total best downs.
Ohio State also won the NC in 2014, so using that logic being beat down one year doesn't mean you won't win it the next.
Alabama got beat down by Clemson 2 years ago too...
Remember you said Oklahoma would get beat down by Georgia, and Georgia needed OT to win.
@roaminglion. Georgia won the game and I’ve never said Ohio St couldn’t beat Alabama or Clemson even thought they do struggle to wins the games against the SEC and Clemson. If y’all want to think Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati and Indiana can play with the top 4 teams more power to ya I just don’t think they have a chance.
You gotta love Southern's enthusiasm for PSU football but it should be obvious to almost everyone here that he has been completely brainwashed by ESPiN and those that buy into their BS. He has also completely bought into their logic of "if it was true 5 years ago it has to be true today"
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Hate to disappoint you Southern but ESPiN is a dying network. They haven't been worth a shet since the demise of Chris Berman "Rumblin, Bumblin, Stumblin!!"
In 2015 Clemson won the ACC, Michigan State won the big 10, Alabama won the SEC and Oklahoma won the big 12. Who else would y’all put in these teams won the 4 toughest conferences?
it’s been Clemson, Alabama, ND, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Ohio St since then so who would y’all put in instead of these teams? Penn St definitely should’ve been taken over Ohio st and I got proof..31-0 Ohio St got pounded and that’s the point I’m trying to make, CC, Cincinnati or Indiana are big time lightweights compared to Ohio st. I’d like to know what the records of these teams is against Ohio St I’d say it ain’t to good.
In 2015 Clemson won the ACC, Michigan State won the big 10, Alabama won the SEC and Oklahoma won the big 12. Who else would y’all put in these teams won the 4 toughest conferences?
it’s been Clemson, Alabama, ND, Oklahoma, LSU, Georgia, Ohio St since then so who would y’all put in instead of these teams? Penn St definitely should’ve been taken over Ohio st and I got proof..31-0 Ohio St got pounded and that’s the point I’m trying to make, CC, Cincinnati or Indiana are big time lightweights compared to Ohio st. I’d like to know what the records of these teams is against Ohio St I’d say it ain’t to good.
Personally I don't give a shet what happened in 2015, just because it happened then doesn't mean we should lock teams out today. You're doing the same thing that was done to PSU in 1969. ESPiN and the SEC,B1G and ACC want those teams kept out because they know that if given a chance one will eventually win a game that proves they deserve a piece of the pie.
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@roaminglion. Georgia won the game and I’ve never said Ohio St couldn’t beat Alabama or Clemson even thought they do struggle to wins the games against the SEC and Clemson. If y’all want to think Coastal Carolina, Cincinnati and Indiana can play with the top 4 teams more power to ya I just don’t think they have a chance.
All I am saying is I'd like to see at least one of them get a chance, rather than constantly talking about it
