As we've all found out with USC, Washington, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma, etc... these rumors have a habit of coming true. The new one is that after the ACC added Stanford, Cal, and SMU to the conference, it was actually the last straw for UNC, Clemson, and Florida State. They will be leaving the ACC, and most likely soon if they get their way. Apparently Clemson has found a way out of the grant of rights contract, and FSU is reportedly "tied up" with Clemson as a package deal for either the SEC (which they both would prefer) or the Big Ten. Some reports are saying Clemson hopes to announce by the end of October.
It's a sound argument, as UNC, Clemson, and FSU were all very vocal about the revenue split being unacceptable as those schools generate the lion's share of the money for the conference. Adding Stanford, Cal, & SMU didn't bring more money, it just diluted the split even more. Obviously those schools were pissed, and UNC even issues a very public rebuke of the move at the time. It seems as though Clemson reached out to the SEC and Big Ten as soon as the ACC accepted those schools.
The wrinkle in all of this is interesting... The Big Ten actually doesn't want Clemson or FSU, or at least they aren't the preferred options. UNC would be their pick of the 3, and also adding ND is the holy grail for the conference to get to 20 teams. If not ND, Syracuse and Virginia are apparently on the table as well.
Syracuse surprised me, but the more I think about it... it makes sense. Many sports that would make sense in the Big Ten, a huge journalism school so a lot of representation in the media, and a big New York alumni presence. It has been stated that outside of ND, UNC & Virginia are the top choices. Duke, I would imagine, would try and hitch their wagon to UNC if they could.
I really don’t understand why any conference would see value in adding Clemson, once Dabo retires they’ll go back to the mediocre football team of old and it’s not like they’re located in a big tv market.
Suckycuse,UNC and VA would be great additions IMO. If we add those 3 we could start the eviction of Rutgers who basically add nothing to the value of the conference.
@psujoe dang Homer, Dabo might coach 20 more years. You better lay off Clemson lolClemson has a 41-29-2 record against Big Ten teams, including a 34-26-2 record against Maryland, who used to be in the ACC. However, of the six opponents the Tigers have faced from the Big 10, Clemson has a winning record against four of them, including a 5-1 combined record versus Ohio State and Penn State.
@southern-psu-fan 20 years lol..they’re already predicting he’s got 2-3 years left and that’s part of the reason the B1G doesn’t want them.
@psujoe dang Homer, Dabo might coach 20 more years. You better lay off Clemson lolClemson has a 41-29-2 record against Big Ten teams, including a 34-26-2 record against Maryland, who used to be in the ACC. However, of the six opponents the Tigers have faced from the Big 10, Clemson has a winning record against four of them, including a 5-1 combined record versus Ohio State and Penn State.
Clemsons pathetic win percentage of .569 vs the B1G is easily bested by PSU’s win percentage of .579 vs the ACC and PSU’s .695 win percentage vs the B1G.
Once again the ACC sucks.
@psujoe Clemson doesn’t choke against teams like TCU when they make the playoffs. Big 10 put 2 teams in the playoffs last year and both of ‘em pretty much choked especially michigan. I guess if it’s the money Penn St uses the big 10 and the big 10 uses Penn State but the big 10 doesn’t like Penn State and for the life of me I don’t understand why a school wants to be in a conference when you know they don’t like you they just want you for money. When things went bad for Penn St the big 10 piled on and did you see that happen to Michigan State? Did the big 10 conference fine Michigan State when that dude was abusing all then innocent young women? I don’t think either football team or coaches should be punished for what 2 satanic creeps were doing because if I had my way about it both of ‘em would be dead right now I’m just pointing out how Penn State got drugged down and how nothing happened to Michigan State by the big 10 conference. Put Penn State in the ACC and the big 10 is just an average conference. If Penn State was in the ACC you wouldn’t see any team wanting to leave. Besides in the eyes of big 10 fans Ohio State is a bunch of chokers in big games especially when they play Clemson or SEC teams. Just saying Remoh lol
Actually the Michigan State thing got swept under the rug by the big 10 conference from what I’ve seen. Maybe I missed something?
IMO, the B1G & the NCAA had no use for JoePa and this filtered down to how they treated (and still do treat) Penn State.
@southern-psu-fan I hadn’t been a fan of PSU being in the B1G for a while but now realize that currently it’s the best place for us to be and the only benefit of joining the ACC would be an easier path to the playoff which Clemson has benefitted from for years. I’m hoping Suckeycuse gets an invite to join the B1G which in turn revives their program and also the rivalry with PSU.
@psujoe Clemson doesn’t choke against teams like TCU when they make the playoffs. Big 10 put 2 teams in the playoffs last year and both of ‘em pretty much choked especially michigan. I guess if it’s the money Penn St uses the big 10 and the big 10 uses Penn State but the big 10 doesn’t like Penn State and for the life of me I don’t understand why a school wants to be in a conference when you know they don’t like you they just want you for money. When things went bad for Penn St the big 10 piled on and did you see that happen to Michigan State? Did the big 10 conference fine Michigan State when that dude was abusing all then innocent young women? I don’t think either football team or coaches should be punished for what 2 satanic creeps were doing because if I had my way about it both of ‘em would be dead right now I’m just pointing out how Penn State got drugged down and how nothing happened to Michigan State by the big 10 conference. Put Penn State in the ACC and the big 10 is just an average conference. If Penn State was in the ACC you wouldn’t see any team wanting to leave. Besides in the eyes of big 10 fans Ohio State is a bunch of chokers in big games especially when they play Clemson or SEC teams. Just saying Remoh lol
" but the big 10 doesn’t like Penn State and for the life of me I don’t understand why a school wants to be in a conference when you know they don’t like you they just want you for money"
I mean, dude... you do realize this is the exact reason Clemson and Florida State want out of the ACC, right? Both schools feel like the ACC just sucks them dry and only likes them because they bring $$$
@roaminglion yes but if Penn State and ND joined the ACC they bring a shit pot full of money making with them, right? It ain’t going to happen but if it did Penn St would do just fine and the ACC would still be there to beat the SEC in NC games because the big 10 ain’t going to do it. Penn State jumps ship there goes Ohio St recruiting because Penn St being in the big 10 only helps Ohio St recruit better. It’s fun for me to wish anyways….F ND and F the big 10 lol
@roaminglion yes but if Penn State and ND joined the ACC they bring a shit pot full of money making with them, right? It ain’t going to happen but if it did Penn St would do just fine and the ACC would still be there to beat the SEC in NC games because the big 10 ain’t going to do it. Penn State jumps ship there goes Ohio St recruiting because Penn St being in the big 10 only helps Ohio St recruit better. It’s fun for me to wish anyways….F ND and F the big 10 lol
So you think leaving the Big Ten because "they don't care about us" is okay because the ACC can "not care about us" then too?
@roaminglion the ACC would be licking their chops to get Penn St and you know it. Penn St would be welcome with open arms. The ACC doesn’t show favoritism like the big 10
@southern-psu-fan "doesn't show favoritism" until we sign on the dotted line.
@roaminglion the ACC would be licking their chops to get Penn St and you know it. Penn St would be welcome with open arms. The ACC doesn’t show favoritism like the big 10
LMAO... give me a break
@roaminglion what did the big 10 do to Michigan State or Ohio St when they were actually covering sexual assault up? Maybe they did do something and I didn’t hear about it?
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@roaminglion what did the big 10 do to Michigan State or Ohio St when they were actually covering sexual assault up? Maybe they did do something and I didn’t hear about it?
Do you not understand that after the NCAA rolled back the sanctions against us, that it made it impossible for them or any conferences to impose sanctions for similar circumstances?
Athletic conferences or institutions have no jurisdiction over academic or social issues on campuses. We came first, that's why we got punished hard. It's also why thry dropped the sanctions early, because they had no right to impose them.
They couldnt just go and impose more sanctions on OSU and MSU after pretty much admitting they had no right to do so in the first place.
@roaminglion i ain’t talking about the ncaa, I’m talking about the big 10 conference. The big 10 conferences can punish Ohio St and Michigan State for the coverup and if it was Maryland or Penn State they would’ve. When all the shit happened at Penn St you could see there was no cover up because them 5 dudes were lost and didn’t know what to do. if there was a cover up they would’ve had a plan together and the big 10 piled on knowing there was no coverup. What happened was horrible and Sandusky is guilty imo but that doesn’t mean they were trying to cover something up. What the 2 doctors done at Ohio St and Michigan St. If there was a coverup at Penn State nothing would’ve ever got dropped.
What the 2 doctors done at Ohio St and Michigan St was a coverup
@southern-psu-fan FFS no they can't. The only reason the Big Ten imposed sanctions on us is because the NCAA did. They arent going to sanction a school if the NCAA won't.
The Big Ten is an athletic conference, they have no right to do it either. Take your tin foil hat off, officials arent just sitting around trying to figure out how to screw Penn State.
@roaminglion and I’m telling you had it been Ohio St the big 10 wouldn’t have piled on and you are saying the big 10 can’t punish schools and yet they did. Can’t have it both ways Roam
@roaminglion and I’m telling you had it been Ohio St the big 10 wouldn’t have piled on and you are saying the big 10 can’t punish schools and yet they did. Can’t have it both ways Roam
No, once again you make stuff up or completely misconstrue what I say.
What I stated was once the NCAA and Big Ten HAD TO recind the sanctions, it was demonstrated that they had no jurisdiction to bring sanctions in the first place. Once it was proved/shown that neither had a right to bring sanctions for something outside of their pervue, they obviously couldnt go and try to do it again.
So again, no... I am not trying to have it both ways. What I said makes perfect sense. The NCAA and Big Ten tried to bring sanctions and the courts/civil suits proved they could not. What you are saying is because they didnt try to do it again, after being told no by the legal system, it's somehow "proof" they hate us. Which, I am sorry, is beyond ridiculous.
The refs were so bad in the Penn St games we’ve got replay. Then there’s the big 10 piling on when you say they didn’t have the rights to do it but they did anyway and Jim Delany cheerleading for Ohio St and Michigan to get in the playoffs when Penn St and Wisconsin was fighting it out on the field for the big 10 championship and we beat Ohio St on the field and you wonder why I don’t think there’s favorable things going on.give me a break.
The refs were so bad in the Penn St games we’ve got replay. Then there’s the big 10 piling on when you say they didn’t have the rights to do it but they did anyway and Jim Delany cheerleading for Ohio St and Michigan to get in the playoffs when Penn St and Wisconsin was fighting it out on the field for the big 10 championship and we beat Ohio St on the field and you wonder why I don’t think there’s favorable things going on.give me a break.
Ffs... So the Big Ten actually listening to Paterno and Penn State to be the first conference with instant replay... somehow means they hate us?
No one was cheerleading for Michigan, stop inventing things. Yeah... Delaney said he felt OSU did enough to make the playoff. So what? He didnt pick the teams, and he isnt the reason we didnt go. Stop blaming Delaney for it, we didnt go because we had 2 losses and one of them was 49-10. Plain and simple. Stop trying to blame someone else for it.
