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(@cc-delco)
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For a bag of balls. Kidding, for a 7th rounder.



   
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(@justafan)
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Beat me to the post.  For a conditional draft pick also.



   
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(@mb3)
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No surprise considering who the Jets have in the QB room now! McCown, Darnold and Bridgewater



   
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(@trick7)
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I have to think Hacks days in the NFL are    numbered. He probably won’t even make Oakland’s roster in the fall. I just don’t think he’s any good.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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Just don't know what happened to the kid.  I know he wasn't all that good his freshman year, as he was bailed out a lot by good receivers but...

...now he can't even throw a pass 5 yards to a checkdown without it bouncing off the ground or winding up in the third row.



   
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(@psuwvuncsu)
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Jon Gruden must think that he can straighten him out. It's actually not that big of a gamble for a seventh round pick. It a lot better than the deal that Chicago cut for Rick Mirer. I wish them luck.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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He never could throw a 5 yard pass, he had a good long ball. Personally I thought he had a great freshman year but then there was a coaching change and he didn’t listen to James Franklin, he got the big head, IMO James Franklin should’ve benched his butt to teach him a lesson , I’ve never seen a QB play that bad and not get benched, sometimes I really don’t think he was trying. I do wish him the best though and hope he works out in Oakland.



   
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(@psuwvuncsu)
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I thought that he had a good, not great, freshman season. But there a lot of things that you could overlook as a freshman with the hope that he would straighten them out later. The problem was he never did. The two biggest problems that I saw: 1) No touch on the ball to throw the short pass and 2) Not knowing when to throw the ball away to avoid a sack or fumble. He hasn't lost either of those problems.

There is probably enough blame to go around with respect to his development or lack there of. I knew we were in trouble when early on, Franklin said that when no one is open on a pass play, the quarterback should be able to run for 3-5 yards. That wasn't Hack's skillset. A porous offensive line didn't help. O'Brien may have worked on those problems some, but he may have also said, "those are some things we'll have to work on next year." Next year with O'Brien never came. We've all questioned Donovan's play calling. Obviously, Hack also gets a lot of the blame. Going to a dysfunctional organization like the Jets didn't help him either. Hopefully, he straightens things out.

Remember, the most popular guy with most fans when your team isn't winning is the backup quarterback.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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He was freshman of the year so that’s great IMO, the NFL scouts said he could be drafted top 5 if he could come out, his numbers were dang good especially for a freshman?



   
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(@roaminglion)
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Oh please...  Yes, I remember watching him throw screen passes his Freshman year that didn't bounce into the ground.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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He did very well for a Freshman, but he also had a fairly good team around him.  As a sophomore, he was a lame duck before ever going out onto the field.

A drop back QB is going to get killed if his OL can't protect him, and that OL sucked. He's not a scrambler, and just had no chance. Combine that with his lack of touch on short passes and it's not a recipe for success.



   
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(@billmurray)
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Christian hackenberg was nothing more than the equivalent of a long ball hitter in baseball. If they get the absolute perfect pitch they can put it over the fence once in a while, but they have 10 times more strikeouts than hits inside the fence. Hacks perfect pitch came when, once in a great while, one of his receivers gave him that perfect pitch. More times than not, though, the other teams didn’t allow that pitch. Nothing more.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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I will never understand why he was even drafted, for the most part his stats got progressively worse every year.  Yes, he did devolve, it wasn't just the team around him.  He got worse too.

His skills deteriorated in his time at PSU.  He wound up throwing bubble screens into the ground at times, something he didn't do as a Freshman.  He was just plain awful after he left. No amount of bad coaching will make a player not able to complete bubble screens, that's on him. Whether it was mental, physical, etc... it was Hack that failed.

Weird player.  All always love him for keeping that first recruiting class together, but man he just couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at the end.



   
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(@billmurray)
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I agree with most of what you said Roam, but if you go back and watch those freshman games, he threw them at the ground that year also. I don't know where I saw it but someone did a chart and his completions and incompletions never changed. They did things like percentage of short passes on target or short or overthrew. Then same for middle of the field.  Then long. They also did what they called miraculous/really good catches and great run after the pass. Wish I could find it. It showed that every year there he was only really responsible for a small percentage of the yards and TDs.

I still assign zero blame on the coaches, at some point a player has to adapt/learn/get better. He never did. He was a 5 star bust that should have been rated 2 stars, though thats an insult to sean lee



   
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(@mb3)
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Hopefully, he thanked Allen Robinson for many of the long ball receptions!



   
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(@22071remoh)
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The guy should have been benched after the loss to Temple in Philly. I was at that game and will never forget watching him lackadaisically warm up by standing flat footed and lofting airballs 30 yards while next to him was an energetic and enthusiastic McSorley taking snaps,scrambling and then throwing darts that hit  recievers on the numbers at the same distance.

The kid definitely had a big head and was uncoachable, he never did plan on staying more than 3 years because he thought he was the "golden boy " or  "the chosen one " destined for NFL stardom.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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The greatest thing he ever did for Penn State was commit, and the 2nd greatest thing was leaving early.  LOL



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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IMO Hack committing to penn st kept us from have losing seasons, BOB not jumping ship and bringing Hack in and hiring James Franklin was the perfect storm for penn st. I was sitting watching ESPN on Friday night I believe and my son told me BOB was leaving for Houston and I was kind of worried but man was I excited when they said they were going after James Franklin, I had watched many Vanderbilt games and i always said if that dude James Franklin ever gets a team with top talent they ain’t no telling what this dude can win, his teams at Vanderbilt were hard as hell to beat. Penn st hit a home run getting Franklin. IMO they done everything right.



   
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(@billmurray)
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I’m not the only one that saw hack wasn’t good as a freshman.  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2627871-christian-hackenbergs-glorified-freshman-campaign-did-not-show-future-star-qb



   
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(@22071remoh)
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I heard the trade to Oakland is contingent on him making the Raiders 53 man roster. If he doesn't make it they owe Cleveland nothing and Hackenburgs time in the NFL is most likely over.



   
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(@billmurray)
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First two pass attempts for Hack at Raider camp: "sack"  Pick 6.  he's done. Will have to come back and get his degree to earn his living



   
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(@justafan)
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Not going to be easy there either with Derek Carr, Connor Cook and E J Manuel.



   
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(@billmurray)
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And now, he is officially done......cut today from the Raiders.  one of the most OVERRATED QBs ever, right up there with morelli



   
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(@roaminglion)
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Made me reflect on our highest ranked recruits since the services came out, and here's a list of the 5 & 4 star QB's (in order of how highly they were ranked) to come to Penn State:

1. Anthony Morrelli
2. Christian Hackenberg
3. Zac Wasserman
4. *Michael Robinson
5. Rob Bolden
6. Pat Devlin
7. Paul Jones
8. Kevin Newsome
9. Sean Clifford
10. Michael O'Connor
11. Ta'Quan Roberson
12. Jake Zembiec

Of every single 4 or 5 star recruit we've had at QB, we've got one phenomenal season out of them, total: Michael Robinson in 2005. Only 2 others even started: Morelli who stunk with a good team around him, and Hackenberg who was mediocre in his first season and devolved from there.

WOOF.



   
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(@mb3)
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Hack's failure in the NFL must be Jay Paterno's fault!😁



   
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