His confidence in the pocket, awareness and field sight. That's the first thing I've noticed on Saturday.
I believe you may mean: That's the first thing the sports reporters commented about on Saturday.
He’s good but he’s got to get better for us to beat Michigan and Ohio State. The kid has to be able to take a game over. We gotta give the kid some time but as of today we’re not there yet on offense. Hopefully it Yurcich holding back but I’m not sure.
I'm intriqued by the other guy, our FB. I'd like to see him throw the ball. I think Yurcich is keeping that part of his game under wraps. I'm not saying to disrupt what we have going with Allar, but I think we have a real ace in the hole with our #2 QB. Can't wait 'til the time is right and we break him loose.
@rip I’m not sold on pro-style QB’s in college I want a dude that can run so the defense has something else to worry about. That’s what made Clifford, McSorley, MROB and D-Clark so good they could take off and run if needed. I’m pulling hard for Allar and I’m his biggest cheerleader but imo #9 is better suited for our offense. I’m just a little nervous with the QB situation Hack and Moreli just about done me in on Pro-Style QB’s BK. I know they both tried their best though. I hope the kid proves ole southern wrong baby because I always love being wrong if it’s good for Penn State football! I’ll be pulling for the young man you can bet your butt on that.
I disagree Southern...Allar is special and has all the tools...He needs one more weapon on the outside to unlock this offense and bring it to it's full potential...#9 is very good and dangerous but he doesn't make this offense any better than it is with Allar...He could come in now and then as a situational weapon but he isn't as good as Allar is in my opinion...
@the-funeral-director Allar needs another weapon is my point. QB’s like #9 has that other weapon in his feet. I’m sure Allar is better because he’s the starter I’m just saying I like DT QB’s like #9 better because it fits our offense. By no means am I down on Allar because I believe he will play in the NFL.
DA isn't fast but sometimes all you need is a consistent 4-5 yard QB run gain with a one off to keep the D a believer. Hell is 6'5, 240, two steps past the scrimmage line and fall down and there's 5 yards+, lol.
You have it backwards Southern, you are saying that Allar isn't "suited" to our offense because he's not a great runner. Our offense isn't meant to run the QB, he's doing exactly what is needed for this offense: move around in the pocket, but keep your eyes downfield to find the open receiver.
What you are saying about #9 is straight up panic mode. It's something you do when nothing else is working, why on earth would you want to do that? Go to another kid and make us completely one dimensional? WHY?
What made McSorely so good was the fact he could throw and pass. What made MROB so good is he could throw and pass. What made Clark good is he could throw and pass. We don't even know if #9 is good at reading defenses yet, and you want to throw him in there and find out after we've scored 30+ in every single game we've played?????
It's not that Allar can't run, HE CAN. It's that he chooses to keep his eyes downfield and do it with his arm.
People are freaking out about him not throwing downfield against Iowa. So what? That was the game plan. Were there on or two times there was a receiver open downfield? Sure. Does that happen in pretty much ever game, even to Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady? YES. I think people are trying to find things right now, relax.
Allar is the QB we need in there, PERIOD. He is 3-0 against Power 5 teams and people can say what they want, but they where fairly decent power 5 teams he beat:
1) WVU....Currently 3-1 and beat Texas Tech who had #9 Oregon on the ropes until late in the 4th quarter. WVU could end up 11-1 or 10-2 the rest of the way based on their schedule
2) Illinois....Currently 2-2, lost to a 4-0 Penn State (#6) and 4-0 Kansas (#24). Probably going to lose a couple more, but they have a solid chance at a bowl game.
3) Iowa...Currently 3-1 and they were ranked #24 when Allar faced them. Based on their remaining schedule, Iowa could easily finish with 1 loss and win the West division. Allar controlled a solid Iowa defense, and kept them on their heels for most of the game.
The fact is, even though none of his wins were against the likes of Ohio State, GA or Michigan ( YET ), he has 4 games under his belt, no turnovers, and Penn State is sitting 4-0 under his command and they are getting better on offense every week. The next two games are against teams that Penn State should win and give this offense some more playing time together in real time. Do I think Pribula should see more time with the first unit? Yes, just to build his confidence and to mix it up a little on 3rd and short. But right now, Allar needs to be getting 95% of snaps and leading this offense. You just can't disrupt this offense right now when they are finally looking like a complete unit.
The next two games are very important to Allar and this offense. There is NO reason to change it up and try to get cute when you have an offense coming off a great win and scoring 30+ points per game. I like Pribula, I think he will do well at Penn State, but right now I like Allar and his passing ability. He has four legs called Singleton and Allen they need to be the ones running the ball!
GO STATE!!!
I said Allar is the Best QB that’s why he’s starting but I like QB’s like #9 that can throw and run. I’m not saying #9 is better because he’s not if he was he would be the starter. I’m tickled to death to be right where we are today but Allar has to get better to beat Michigan and Ohio St which I believe he will. I want the QB on the field that gives us the best chance to win…period. In today’s college football imo DT QB’s is what I like. As for Allar Running I don’t know Roam, he looks very slow to me lol but he’s got a gun of an arm on him.
Comp Att yards CMP% Avg Long TD INT
Drew Allar 84 125 903 67.2 7.2 72 8 0
McCarthy 71 89 915 79.8 10.3 50 8 3
McMcord 74 113 1065 55.5 9.3 75 6 1
IDK, Southern. But based on the stats through 4 games, I would say Allar ranks right in there with Ohio State and Michigan. I will give it to McCord with his last minute drive against ND....but that was also a very lucky pass threw to set up the winning TD. The other three games were against not so good teams.
As far as McCarthy, did you see the teams he faced? He should be at 79.8% and 4-0. And he also threw 3 picks against bad defenses.
I like the way Allar is progressing. I would say by the time he faces Ohio State he will be pretty much through his Rookie season and ready to go!
GO STATE!!
@mtnittanylion This ain’t something I’m just saying this year because if you go back you’ll see I’ve always said we need to be better at QB to beat Michigan and Ohio St. 2 years ago we were in position to beat Michigan and the defense laid an egg late in the game. I agree with you, DA is coming along just fine I’m just saying in todays college football pro-Style QB’s struggle regardless of how good they are because most teams don’t have enough studs on the OL to block these monster defensive linemen and that’s why I like DT QB’s. Like I said, I believe DA will be the first player taken in the NFL draft assuming he doesn’t get hurt I believe he’s that good but is the OL good enough to keep him from getting hurt and giving him time to throw. The OL will get better but I thought it would be dominant this year and they’ve struggled some. It’s not just Penn State that has OL problems it’s most of college and NFL teams these DL are just to hard to block today. Every coach I listen to including Slick Nick says they have OL problems.
I hear what you're sayin' Southern, but don't sell our OL short:
Our offensive line overwhelmed Iowa last week to the tune of 215 rushing yards and more than 45 minutes of possession time. But none of our 97 plays was as impressive as Allar gaining 6 yards on a 4th-and-1 sneak. He ran several other sneaks in the game, including one on second down that gained 4 yards, but this particular one generated national attention. It earned the offensive line a national pancake prize!
The Joe Moore Award, which recognizes the nation's top offensive line each year, awarded Penn State's entire line its Pancake Block of the Week award. The Joe Moore committee highlights a particularly dominant pancake block each week. For the first time ever, that award went to an entire OL! Our OL got the award for their blocking as a unit on that 4th-and-1 sneak!
@rip Penn St’s OL is just as good as anybody’s in the big 10. My point is every team out there struggles on the OL it’s just harder to block the beast on the other side these days. It’s happening in the NFL too. I’m not selling them short they’re just as good as the rest in the big 10
You're points well taken buddy. I agree with you! Just thought I'd share that news about the recognition our OL got. I never heard of the Joe Moore Award, but it's a national award & nice for our guys to be cited by that committee. A lot better than the "Ole awards" they've earned in the past, lol.
Just going to say this:
- Stetson Bennett (2) - Pro Style QB
- Mac Jones - Pro Style QB
- Joe Burrow - Pro Style QB
- Trevor Lawrence - Pro Style QB
- Jake Coker - Pro Style QB
- Cardale Jones - Pro Style QB
- Jameis Winston - Pro Style QB
8 of the last 10 National Title winners did so with Pro Style QBs, not Dual Threat QBs.
On top of that, Deshaun Watson wasnt a huge runner and was pass first. The only true dual threat QB in the past 10 years to win a NC was Jalen Hurts. However he was benched in the 2nd half for Tua (Pro Style QB) who actually won the game.
So.....
Hey - you are entitled to your opinion and you know I always respect your position. I am a fan too of DT QB's, but I think Penn State has something special here and a DT QB is not going to make THIS team win anymore games than Allar will....this year. If the O-line gives him time, he will destroy you with his arm. The first two TD passes against Iowa were sweet! I will take them all day long vs a DT QB. Allar is not running all over the field trying to extend series. He looks fresh every play and I think this is why he hasn't thrown any interceptions or put the ball on ground so far this year.
Let's table this conversation until we see how he fairs against Ohio State. I think he can pick Ohio State's defense apart if the O-line plays like they did vs Iowa.
GO STATE!!!!
Well then.....will it be safe to wager that 9 out of the last 11 teams to win a National Title had Pro Style QB's? Adding Penn State and Allar to your list?
Honestly, I don't think there is one clear cut team right now that should win it all. I think the next National Champion is going to be one the currently ranked top 9 teams. If I had to pick one more, I would take Oklahoma over ND, LSU, Bama and Utah.
GO STATE!!!!
I’ve done a terrible job on explaining what I’m talking about and I know it’s my fault. I want a mobile QB that can get out of trouble like Stetson Bennett if things go bad and Allar isn’t that kind of QB he’s like Peyton Manning, he’s going down if things go bad. Saying DT QB was a terrible on my part I should’ve known better. I’m not talking DT QB like Kevin Newsome lol…our mobile QB’s the last 15 years have saved our butts quite a few times and has won games for us and Allar isn’t that kind of QB. He’s a dam good QB that can win games and a NC if you got an OL that can block. That’s what I’m talking about lol
I’ve done a terrible job on explaining what I’m talking about and I know it’s my fault. I want a mobile QB that can get out of trouble like Stetson Bennett if things go bad and Allar isn’t that kind of QB he’s like Peyton Manning, he’s going down if things go bad. Saying DT QB was a terrible on my part I should’ve known better. I’m not talking DT QB like Kevin Newsome lol…our mobile QB’s the last 15 years have saved our butts quite a few times and has won games for us and Allar isn’t that kind of QB. He’s a dam good QB that can win games and a NC if you got an OL that can block. That’s what I’m talking about lol
You're wrong, he's nothing like Peyton Manning in that respect. He's more athletic than you give him credit for, he just chooses to look downfield rather than run. He's much more like Ben Rothlisberger, not overly fast but a tank and can run if he needs to.
I like PT (Primary Threat) Pro Style QB's that have a sense of when to run safely when needed. We praise the pro style for throwing the ball away but a 5 yard scramble is worth much more (yards and threat). Many 'Dual Threat' QB's just don't throw that well IMO. They don't have to see the field and the progression tends to be 1) primary receiver 2) run. Hopefully DA has the spacial awareness to know when to run.
@roaminglion I don’t know what you’re watching, Allar is very slow and just like Peyton Manning when he was in college. Ain’t neither one of them dudes going to win a game with their feet.
Let me say one more time, it’s not Allar I’m worried about, it’s the OL giving a true pocket pro-Style QB time to throw and get out of trouble if something breaks down is what I’m worried about.
