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Devyn Ford transfers to Notre Dame. Keyvone Lee transfers to Mississippi State.

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News on two former Penn State players....



   
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Free agency at it's best!



   
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Hopefully they can make an impact with their new teams. Good RBs but not good enough to start at Penn State.I like the portal but it’s needs to be tweaked. 



   
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Respect your opinion, Southern.  I'll tell you where I'd like to tweak it, lol.  Just my minority opinion though.



   
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Free agency at it's best!

Technically it's more like amateurism than professional free agency, considering amateurs don't have contracts and can go wherever they want, whenever they want. Just sayin'

That said, I wish both of them the best!

 



   
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According to FindLaw:

An athletic scholarship is basically a yearly contract because it expires at the end of each school year and must be renewed. The coaching staff has the right to review the roster and scholarship athletes to decide how to spend the money allotted to them the next year, and must notify student athletes by July 1st about whether their scholarship will be renewed.

This is important to keep in mind because if a scholarship is not renewed, the student athlete will be responsible for paying his or her tuition and expenses. Moreover, an athletic scholarship doesn't necessarily mean that all of the student athlete's sports-related injuries will be covered by the school. While the school is required to make the student athlete aware of its medical coverage, there is currently no standardized health care coverage for student athletes.

Finally, an athletic scholarship can prevent a student from transferring to another school. Accepting an athletic scholarship means that the student commits to playing for the school that offered him or her the scholarship. As a result, if the student wants to transfer, he or she must get permission from the school. Depending on the circumstances, there's a possibility that the school won't grant permission for the student to transfer. If a student chooses to transfer anyway, the school could sue the student for breach of contract.



   
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@rip That's why I said it's "more like" amateurism, not exactly like amatueism. Pro athletes, for the most part, arent signing consecutive 1 year deals with the ability to move around all the time. The better players have multi year deals, and can even be prevented from leaving by protected frachise tags.

My point was the transfer portal makes it less like professional sports, not more like it.



   
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But they do ,have a contract.



   
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But they do ,have a contract.

For school, not money.

 



   
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I'm sure there's some money involved with NIL, lol.



   
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I'm sure there's some money involved with NIL, lol.

NIL is not for playing, and I know people argue otherwise... but that's like saying Rolex was paying Tom Brady to play. It's advertising. Not a fan of it, but it is not (((supposed))) to be pay for play. I do agree that thyy need to get a handle on it.

But I digress... Pros mostly have multi-year contracts with a team and are not allowed to go anywhere else. Amateurs don't. Now college athletes are not bound to a location like pros are, if they don't like their situation then they can leave. No need to hold out or demand trades.

It's interesting because people seem to love it when Cael gets kids to transfer and come here, yet now that football and basketball players are afforded that same oppurtunity everyone is pissed about it. Lmao

 


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I'm not thrilled with building a wrestling program through the portal.  Our coach was doing fine without it.  As far as NIL, maybe it's not supposed to be pay for play, but imo that's what it turned out to be.  I don't see what length of a contract has to do with anything.  A contract is a contract and college athletes do have a contract.  The transfer portal is free agency no matter how you look at it.  The pros test free agency all the time and now amateurs (college athletes) are doing the same.  If they don't like their situation or location, fine.  Let them transfer and sit a year.  They always had that option without a transfer portal.  Just my opinion.  I'm not trying to change anyone else's opinion on this matter, only stating what I see happening in college football today.   



   
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I'm not thrilled with building a wrestling program through the portal.  Our coach was doing fine without it.  As far as NIL, maybe it's not supposed to be pay for play, but imo that's what it turned out to be.  I don't see what length of a contract has to do with anything.  A contract is a contract and college athletes do have a contract.  The transfer portal is free agency no matter how you look at it.  The pros test free agency all the time and now amateurs (college athletes) are doing the same.  If they don't like their situation or location, fine.  Let them transfer and sit a year.  They always had that option without a transfer portal.  Just my opinion.  I'm not trying to change anyone else's opinion on this matter, only stating what I see happening in college football today.   

If it was a contract that was anything like professional sports, college athletes would not be able to transfer or even talk to anyone until their contract was up. Professionals are there, on that team and owned by them until the last day of their contract... unless the team decides to let them go.

College athletes on the other hand... aren't bound by anything even remotely like a professional contract. I never liked the whole "sit a year" thing, because it was punitive towards the athlete for transferring. And for what? A decision they made when they were a minor? And why was it only done for Football and Basketball? Other sports were always allowed to transfer and play immediately. I mentioned Cael because wrestlers have always been able to transfer without sitting, as did the majority of other sports. It was only Football, Basketball, Ice Hockey, and Baseball that made kids sit.

So I ask, what other reason was their for that.... Just a coincidence they are the money makers? That's not a good reason for me, either make it a thing for all the sports, or none of them. IMO the best thing is allowing the 1st transfer without sitting, but the 2nd you have to sit a year. That way you aren't penalizing kids for a decision they made in high school, before even knowing what they were getting into.

 



   
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Fair enough, Roam.  You got your opinion and I got mine.



   
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Fair enough, Roam.  You got your opinion and I got mine.

Yep, no worries! Nice convo, thanks!

 



   
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