Nice for us, will help our perception.
Of course we need to keep winning, but it's a positive to have that win
Yep, as a general rule, after you beat somebody, it's best if they keep winning.
I think Bama and UGA are in a league of their own. I think it's gonna be a shootout the rest of the way for the teams vying for 3rd and 4th place.
We've got a tough schedule from here on out. We maybe make the dance with one loss, with two; we're out.
Too many what ifs and what about-isms to even start to speculate playoff scenerios.
I totally disagree with you Tsuga...I don't think they are as good as everybody is making them out to be...Who have they played and who have they beat? It's all smoke and mirrors...I posted their schedules and such and broke down their "signature wins" They have played NOBODY...NO BOD EEEEEEE...Florida got beat by Kentucky...Check out Kentucky's wins...Arkansas beat A&M...Check out A&M's schedule...Who have these teams played? NO BOD EEEEE...A&M got beat by Mississippi State at HOME and Mississippi State lost to Memphis frickin State in a game the refs couldn't even fix...I ain't buying any of it...Until I see that league go out of conference and beat somebody I ain't buying all the BS...LSU went on the road and got drilled by UCLA...Auburn went on the road and got handled by Penn State in a game that wasn't as close as the score thanks to the zebra's they pack with them...Mississippi State goes on the road and got drilled by Memphis...Bama beat Miami on the road but so did Michigan State and I would argue that Michigan State handled em easier than Bama did...How about Georgia's "BIG WIN" over Clemson? Who is Clemson? They got beat by NC State for Gawd sake...Sorry but I ain't buying the baloney...Not until they play somebody and beat em...Last year don't count....5 years ago don't count...This year is all that matters...
@the-funeral-director: I figured that would get a rise out of you!! I think Bama, maybe not so much UGA, has the ability to turn it up a notch whenever they want to.
To be sure, I hope I'm 100%wrong. I guess that's why we play the games!!
In all honesty, people can ask that about us too......who have we played??
Penn State has played a much more difficult schedule than either of those 2 have...They only play with themselves...
Who exactly have we played? A Wisconsin team that's gotten beat two weeks in a row now? Ball State who lost to Toledo? 3 loss Indiana? FCS Villanova? Or how about an SEC team in Auburn that you keep saying the whole conference is overrated?
Sorry FD, but it's laughable that you can say with a straight face that our schedule has been "better". Both Alabama's and Georgia's schedules are pretty damn similar, nothing special... but Georgia did beat a team CONVINCINGLY who had pummeled Texas in an OOC game. Texas is now 4-1... I'd say that's probably a bit better of a win than Auburn is for us, at least right now.
Some people get by on reputation (Clemson) others have to beat someone. Iowa jumps us by beating a MD team that gave the ball away 5 times and we shut out IN. Some teams it doesn't matter that they haven't played anyone or that the teams they beat (Miami and FL) have dropped a lot. It is all OK until you get to the end with 1 loss and then you find out the guy that started the season ranked highly because he is an SEC team gets in and you get to go to the Rose bowl. I'd trust a computer to do the analysis in the end with no initial weightings more than I trust ESPN to bias the answer.
@underlion Ohio State gets more favoritism than any other team in college football. They change rules for ‘em and also let ‘em play in the playoffs without winning their conference even when the lost to the team on the field that won the conference. Y’all need to look at the chit that goes on in the big 10 that’s where the shady crap is all the SEC does is beat up on Ohio St.
I agree Southern. THE Suckeyes tend to get things their way, but the Iwish run right up there with them. Who else gets to pick and choose when they want to be independent, and when they want to temporarily join a conference ..... and regardless if they're in one or out of one, have a preferred seat at the playoff table?
Well they are the top ranked one loss team ... can that be justified with any win? They NEED another loss or two.
So you are saying that only OSU gets preference and the SEC and teams that play the SEC, especially AL get no enhanced rating? I'm wondering why that would be? What argument can you make for that being the case? What conflict of interest other than the powerful B10 makes that so? ESPN is weak and has no influence? NBC has no bias to ND? Boy people liked Miami. Just a big error?
I really think somebody could write a statistical analysis that showed certain preferences relative to performance over the past 5 years. Good masters project for some PSU student. A little Minitab work.
But since this is an Auburn thread, lets compare 1 loss OSU to 1 loss Auburn.
It seems OSU lost to Oregon who has now been beaten by Stanford and their best win is over MN 45-31 who has 2 losses one bing Bowling Green.
Auburn on the other hand lost to unbeaten PSU and their best win is LSU who has 2 losses one being UCLA.
So I'd propose the losses favor Auburn and the wins are relatively equal? And yet OSU is ranked much higher based on what? Reputation? Recruiting? Initial ranking? Auburn having a new coach and QB. Voter concentration/dilution?
ESPN's goal is to bring in $$$$...It is in their best interest as a business to do whatever they can to enhance the 2 conferences that they are affiliated with...They created the SEC channel and the ACC channel to directly compete with the B1G channel and Texas Universities channel...Ever since that business relationship has began they have been shamelessly promoting those 2 conferences as being superior to the other 3 conferences...Now they have absorbed Texas and Oklahoma into the SEC...Their mission in the CFP is to load up as many teams from the SEC and ACC as possible as it benefits their business which is their network...There is no conspiracy here it is simply about money...The SEC officiating during out of conference road games has been documented ad nauseum...It is real...The down markers don't lie...The phantom penalties or lack of penalties called in key situations game after game is no lie or conspiracy but fact...The stacking of the preseason rankings to favor those conferences is not a lie or conspiracy but a fact...Their goal this year is to make you believe that Georgia and Alabama are light years ahead of the rest of the teams and that simply is a bunch of bullbutter...Even some of the announcers on rival networks are getting into the act and speaking out about the nonsense this playoff system is...5 conference champs...1 non power conference team and 2 at large teams should make up the playoffs...To take a team that isn't a conference champ and put them in a playoff for the national championship is pure garbage...In this limited team playoff only conference champs should play for a national title period Stop...It is week 5 and they are already opining on ESPN that it is a forgone conclusion that Alabama and Georgia are in the playoff and we are going to fill out the other 2 teams from the rest of the field...Sorry but the games have to matter and conference champions must take preference over everything else...This garbage has been going on for years now and I am shocked that there isn't more of a backlash from the other conferences...I believe the worm has turned this year and the playoff system is in for an overhaul or you may see the rest of the conferences form their own playoff and leave out the SEC...I can also see the other conferences demand that one media company not own the rights to the playoff but split it among 2 or 3 different media outlets...Change is a coming because it has to for the integrity of the sport...
I agree with everything you say FD. Unfortunately, IMHO the integrity of the sport went down the ol porcelain chute with the transfer portal, letting most transfers play immediately, allowing for NLI payments to athletes etc.
I don't have any problem with a player being able to enter a transfer portal Bob...I remember back when I was playing...A different time and a different era...I can see where a kid gets recruited by coach A and coach A leaves after his freshman year and coach B comes in and runs a whole different system and brings in "his" players and now the poor kid is stuck at a place for 3 years without a legitimate shot of playing...If the coach can leave the kid should be able to leave too...I get the whole "you pick the school not the program" argument but the reality is they are both important...As an athlete you choose the program and the school really is secondary...You have to feel comfortable there and enjoy the community and atmosphere but the reality is you picked that school for the coaching staff and the program...As far as the NLI payments are concerned I think that is great for the kids as well...I am 40 years too late for that...My only concern is that the whole thing is handled the right way and it doesn't become corrupted...I just want the kids to have some sort of training and tutoring into handling the responsibility of the financial windfall and pitfalls of these media deals...The issues aren't usually with the players but with the organizations and entities like the NCAA, various conferences and such...The power brokers and the media outlets that control the sport are who need to be monitored and regulated...Just my take on this very complex situation...
I wholeheartedly agree, FD. The problem I see it is not the kids, but how these "reforms" are administered by the adults who have a vested interest. The NCAA, conferences, some coaches, boosters, etc. are the one's that scare me. Also, I have no problem with transfers as such. This option was always available as far back as I can remember. However, the kid should have to sit for a year unless the transfer was for a legitimate reason. It doesn't seem like the adults (NCAA) see it that way today. Also, I don't have any hard statistics, but I'd be willing to bet the farm that there are more transfers because the kid isn't happy with his playing time than because a particular coach left the program. When a kid enters the portal, it's just another way of opening up his recruitment all over again! And I'm sure there are some coaches (with personnel needs) who are happy to jump at the opportunity. I'm sure there are plenty of promises made and maybe even some enticements offered. These are just my opinions for what they're worth.
I believe there is some truth in what you are saying as well...You can also bet these kids are promised the sun, moon and stars...I also don't think a kid should have to wait a year to be able to play...If a coach can leave the kid should have the same option...
