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(@roaminglion)
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I was just looking at our signees, and what really stands out is the quality of players we have coming in. Yes, it's a small class with 18 players currently, but all but one of them is a 4* athlete. Even then, the 3* player is a JUCO who I hear was arguably one of the best defensive players in the JUCO ranks last year.

That's an amazing haul, and hopefully a sign of what's to come down the road. Franklin continues to stock the roster with tons of talent, and he has an opportunity in 2019 to really cement Penn State as an elite player on the national stage. Everything is there for us next year, if Franklin can find a way to improve his end-of-game coaching strategies... WE ARE going to be special.



   
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Is this considered a west coast spin??  Im asking for a friend.......

Just kidding.  2019 is gonna be a special year!!



   
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Yes, absolutely.  Great recruiting class. My only question,  how will the schedule help getting to the playoffs. 



   
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Is this considered a west coast spin??  Im asking for a friend.......

Just kidding.  2019 is gonna be a special year!!

ROTFLMAO



   
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Yes, absolutely.  Great recruiting class. My only question,  how will the schedule help getting to the playoffs. 

Pitt played in the ACC Championship and Buffalo won 10 games and played in the MAC Championship. Not a tremendous OOC schedule but certainly not terrible either.

If we take care of business and go undefeated or lose 1 close game we will be fine. Just can't lose twice or get blown out.



   
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In regards to 2019, I hope it turns out all good, but I'm still not sold on O and D coordinators regardless of the talent on board. I think if it turns out good, winning the Big, we could probably say the team/program has turned the corner. Afterwards, making the playoff consistently, puts the program in a different league. Otherwise the program is no different than a Texas, ND, Wisky, Auburn etc, that makes a run every now and then. 



   
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In regards to 2019, I hope it turns out all good, but I'm still not sold on O and D coordinators regardless of the talent on board. I think if it turns out good, winning the Big, we could probably say the team/program has turned the corner. Afterwards, making the playoff consistently, puts the program in a different league. Otherwise the program is no different than a Texas, ND, Wisky, Auburn etc, that makes a run every now and then. 

I wouldn't put Wisky in the same league as Texas, ND, or Auburn. Those schools have recent or semi-recent national titles and have all played in NC games this century.

Wisconsin has never even played for a NC, let alone won one.



   
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Depends also on who else is possible undefeated or has one loss because if it’s any of the teams I told you the other day you can forget it. IMO we’d have to go undefeated to make the playoffs.



   
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Depends also on who else is possible undefeated or has one loss because if it’s any of the teams I told you the other day you can forget it. IMO we’d have to go undefeated to make the playoffs.

You are just being paranoid. This "the committee is out to get the Big Ten" stuff is just getting old.

The Big Ten would bring the most viewers to the game, even if it was all about money there's no way they would leave the Big Ten out. why would they? The most money to be made is having a big ten team in the CFP, not out of it.

TV ratings and money numbers even show that having two teams from the SEC hurts the overall money and TV ratings, it doesn't help them. having two teams from the same region in the college football playoff means less TV viewership... if it really was all about money, why would they cut off their nose to spite their face?

you just need to accept the fact that getting blown out is a big deal. it's your opinion that it doesn't matter, but IT ABSOLUTELY MATTERS TO THE PLAYOFF COMMITTEE. if nothing else, the committee has made it damn clear that they aren't going to put teams who get blown out into the playoff.

THAT IS THE ONE AND ONLY REASON OHIO STATE WAS LEFT OUT.



   
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They put Georgia in last year when they got blown out? Roam the big 10 champ has got left out 3 straight years. It’s all opinion because you don’t have to win anything to get in unless it’s a SEC team because their champ gets in regardless. I’m not being paranoid I’m looking at the facts. 40-17 is a pretty good butt kicking and the dawgs took it on the chin and they got in because they won the SEC. if our champ doesn’t play their champ how am I supposed to think they’re better? It’s a fixed system and it’s who they pick not who deserves it. Y’all can debate over the way a loss looks if you want to but the bottom line is a loss is a loss and a win is a win..period.


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The fix is on Roam it always has been and it always will be until you have to win something to get in the playoffs. It’s only common sense but if you have to win something to get in they can choose who they want. The committee is a scam and it’s not needed.



   
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The fix is on Roam it always has been and it always will be until you have to win something to get in the playoffs. It’s only common sense but if you have to win something to get in they can choose who they want. The committee is a scam and it’s not needed.

IMO there hasn't been one team yet that didn't deserve to be in the CFP. Not one team.

The problem is and always has been not enough spots, not that the committee is choosing favorites. If anything, the biggest screw job the committee has done so far was vaulting Ohio State over Baylor or TCU back in 2015... and they won the NC. LMAO

You really need to get it out of your head that Athletic Directors from all 5 major conferences are somehow selecting teams based on what journalists or ESPN want. The real problem is and always has been the system itself. 4 spots for 5 major conferences and everyone else was a sham from the start, the committee is just doing their best within a flawed system. The AD from Oregon (who runs the committee) could give two #@$@ about what some executives at ESPN want.



   
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Ohio st is one of the teams I told you would always get the favoritism and Baylor and TCU found out in 2015 and just like we found out in 2016. Clemson, Alabama, ND and Ohio st are 4 teams that shouldn’t have got in. I guess Clemson probably deserved it because they did win their conference I was just going on them getting beat by garbage Syracuse. 


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In 2016 we didn't get in because we got blown out by Michigan & had two losses. Point Blank.

The committee has been consistent with their selections, and they've never selected a two loss team or a team that was taken behind the woodshed.

ND didn't go in 2016 either, it was Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Washington.

The system is what is flawed, the committee is just people picking who they feel is worthy based on their own opinion. Until we get to 8 with 6 auto-bids from the Power 5 and a Group of 5, they will continue to have to squeeze a square peg into a round hole.



   
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We won the big 10 and beat Ohio st on the field 2 of the most important things to do when this scam was put together and they left us out. It was BS then and it’s BS now. They didn’t do what they said they would do when they left us out. The only consistent thing I’ve seen them do is make sure a SEC team is in the playoffs.



   
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We won the big 10 and beat Ohio st on the field 2 of the most important things to do when this scam was put together and they left us out. It was BS then and it’s BS now. They didn’t do what they said they would do when they left us out. The only consistent thing I’ve seen them do is make sure a SEC team is in the playoffs.

They said from the beginning the 4 best teams, not conference champions. And wheter you like it or not getting absolutely destroyed by Michigan that year kept us out.

Again, what do you not understand? If you get blown out, the committee time and time again has shown they will not let you in. 

And BS about "SEC Teams". Georgia is the only other team from the SEC to even make the CFP outside of Alabama. Last year Alabama lost once, and Ohio State lost once. Ohio State won their conference, yet was destroyed by Iowa. What do I continually say? DO NOT GET BLOWN OUT.

If Ohio State was competitive in that Iowa game, thry would have been in. They weren't. Seriously, all this crying about the Big Ten champ is spilt milk. If the Big Ten doesn't want to be left out, then our champion should avoid taking days off and avoid being beaten to a pulp by lesser teams. It's that simple.

the committee will forgive a three-point loss to a mediocre team, but they won't forgive becoming a dumpster fire for a game against a mediocre opponent.



   
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Georgia got blown out Roam 



   
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42-17 tests a butt kicking IMO



   
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Georgia got blown out Roam 

I've stated this multiple times... You can't get blown out by mediocre teams. Auburn was a top ten team and played in the SEC Championship. Also, Georgia didn't lose twice like we did in 2016.

Don't try and compare losing badly to a top ten team to losing badly to a 6-6 unranked one. This stuff doesn't live in a vacuum. 

2016: We lost twice AND we blown out by 39 points.

2017: Ohio State lost to an unranked team by 31 AND lost twice

2017: Georgia lost by 23 to #10 

2018: Ohio State lost by 29 to an unranked team

The Big Ten champion had no business being in the playoff in 2016 or 2017. You could make an argument that this year Ohio State should have advanced, but again they lost to an unranked team in a blowout. when put up against Oklahoma, they might have had one or two better wins but that loss was to big to overlook 



   
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BTW... HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS SOUTHERN!!!!



   
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Thanks Roam, merry Christmas and happy holidays my friend! Let’s hope the Tide puts a beat  down on the next 2 teams they play so hopefully we can get closer  to the 8 teams like you want. I can go with that because the best team is in the top 8 lol



   
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Posted by: roaminglion
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In regards to 2019, I hope it turns out all good, but I'm still not sold on O and D coordinators regardless of the talent on board. I think if it turns out good, winning the Big, we could probably say the team/program has turned the corner. Afterwards, making the playoff consistently, puts the program in a different league. Otherwise the program is no different than a Texas, ND, Wisky, Auburn etc, that makes a run every now and then. 

I wouldn't put Wisky in the same league as Texas, ND, or Auburn. Those schools have recent or semi-recent national titles and have all played in NC games this century.

Wisconsin has never even played for a NC, let alone won one.

I agree re. Wisky, but my thinking along the lines of Wisky, a solid team who gets on a run and breaks through every so often but doesn't get the job done. TX, AB and ND are a composite of living in the past with some recent success but have not been consistent perennial powers. TX, AU and ND; basically irrelevant with the exception a few runs here and there. 

It's a tough game to be in but JoPa made a damn good run fro the start until 98'. 99' started the fall with the exception of a break through here and there. 



   
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