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(@roaminglion)
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I find it interesting how each of our sports has different standards which people use to justify their opinions.  Not saying it's good or bad, I just like the discrepancy between sports.

Take Basketball and Football:  In Football many are really annoyed that Alabama was even in the CFP, let alone won it.  "They didn't even win their conference" is the usual warcry.

However, in Basketball both Michigan and Villanova did not win their conferences in the regular season.  They finished 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th.  Villanova didn't win their conference tournament in 2016, while 2015 Duke didn't win the regular season OR the conference tournament.

Also, soccer in Europe doesn't even have playoffs.  Whoever wins the regular season is champion.  Period. They have tournaments, but for the league it's full home/home round robin.  Done.



   
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(@lakerie)
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What you are saying, and I’m not saying you are wrong, in fact quite correct, is that conference championships don’t mean anything. That is of course if your body of work is worthy of continuing. Conference championships in wrestling have diminished value as well. In fact, I would go on to say they are more of a tool than a goal to strive for. It allows wrestlers to gauge their competition and perhaps improve seeding for the NCAA’s. Unlike all other college sports (that I can think of) like football and basketball, even dual meets are meaningless for wrestling.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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If we had a real playoff instead of a fixed system in college football maybe it wouldn’t be so important to win your conference championship, college football is different because we don’t have a real playoff system, it’s a fixed garbage BS system.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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I really didn't mean to give an opinion either way, I just find it interesting how the majority of fans in each sport feel differently about it.  In one sport, the fans are all about regular season...  In another it's all about playoffs...  and yet in others it's about tournaments during the year.

I think it's cool how each sport's fans have carved out their own separate opinions on things.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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8 teams: 5 Conference Champions, 1 team auto-bid from other conferences, 2 wild cards.

Most everyone knows this is the best way.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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That’s the perfect system IMO because we can still keep the bowl games Roam.



   
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(@lionbacker99)
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Part of me agrees and wants to see the tradition of bowl games continue by being intigrated in the expanded playoff. The other part of me says screw the bowl games and go to the same system the FCS uses giving teams home field advantage. Let’s see the southern teams come up north in December and January for playoff games. And if our boys in blue and white had to travel to a warm destination during those months too may a playoff game, I’m sure our fans would follow.



   
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(@lionbacker99)
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to play



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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I hope I can say this right LB99. I really don’t think 16 team playoffs would work because IMO the top 16 teams don’t have close to the same talent and with injuries happening through out the year the big dawg teams like Alabama would destroy teams ranked from let’s say 8th-16th, I know there’s upsets in college football but it wouldn’t happen but once in a blue moon because the talent level is so much better for the elite teams. Teams like Oregon, Washington and Michigan st can’t recruit good enough and that’s why they get blown out when they do get a chance to play in the title games, they can have good seasons but when you put these teams in a 4 or 8 team playoff they’ll get destroyed, 8 teams is the magic number IMO?



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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Penn st, Ohio st, Michigan, USC, Texas, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Clemson, Florida st, Miami, these are the big dawgs that can get the talent to compete every year if they have the right coach. ND, Washington and Nebraska are on the outside looking in, maybe Oregon, see Roam you have rubbed off on me a little bit lol



   
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(@lionbacker99)
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I never said I wanted 16 teams in. I’ll take 8 with home field advantage. Then rotate neutral sites for the NC game. But $$ talks so the bowls will continue as is.



   
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(@mean-green-lion)
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I don't think it's a matter of who's in it or who wins it, as long as conference champs get a shot.  All conference champs get an autobid to the NCAA Tournament.  Others have to hope for an at-large bid.  So while there will always be bickering over who gets the at-large bids, at least no conference champs are left sitting at home without a chance to prove themselves on the court.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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Exactly the way I feel mean green! BTW I believe UCF would’ve got destroyed by the top 4 teams last year and we’d also destroyed them. The SEC and especially auburn was overrated last year.



   
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(@mean-green-lion)
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Any playoff that leaves out last year's UCF team isn't worth diddly.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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My system wouldn't.  You must have missed the part where I said 1 auto bid from the other conferences...  Which would have been UCF.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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Auburn did beat Georgia and Alabama last year though.

However, they had nothing to play for in the bowl.



   
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(@mean-green-lion)
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Roam - I'm not sure why my post showed as a reply to your post, since it wasn't.  I wasn't expressing disagreement with your post, just with the present system.



   
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(@mean-green-lion)
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Southern, the problem is you have to say "I believe."  Football championships need to be won on the field, not on the think-so's of a committee.



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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You know I think the conference champs should get in the playoffs, the big 10 champ has got the shaft the past 2 years, the system is a scam and it stinks.



   
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(@roaminglion)
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No worries 🙂



   
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(@billmurray)
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fuck the bowl games, only 6 of them draw any type of respectable crowd, unless ND or PSU arent in those 6, then it's 8.  the rest, you can hear a frog fart during a touchdown.  The ONLY advantage to bowl games is we get to watch a bunch of football in 7 days. Bad thing is its usually a bunch of BAD football.



   
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(@psuwvuncsu)
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Some bowl games are better than others. As long as teams in bowl games get the advantage of a few more weeks of practice to begin working on next year and there is a potential big payout to the school/conference, the bowls will continue, even if many of those schools lose money by going to a bowl. The exposure is another big drawl for the administrators. The only thing that we can hope is that more bowls aren't added to the list and that some president/board of trustees doesn't decide to move up the ranks to get that big paycheck/exposure. Both of which we know will happen.



   
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