Can whoever it is bring in Cael for a weekly "clutch" talk? Like, what it takes to be elite and not let your nerves get the best of you? To show up at the biggest moments?
I feel like that guy is one of the, if not THE best, clutch performers and cosches of all time in any sport. He always stepped up, and his wrestlers always seem to meet the moment.
Bring him in for halftime speeches, heck just call him and talk to him about coaching philosophy. Why not?
Oh I've been saying for quite a while that Cael has some magic and JFF should go to Cael School. But Cael did it and Cael works in an individual sport. And boy I like his interviews better.
Cael has his boys play at the highest level, on the biggest stage at a statistically ridiculous rate. He is qualified to teach the 500 level class in SPorts Psychology.
Maybe he has a relative that coaches football.
Can whoever it is bring in Cael for a weekly "clutch" talk? Like, what it takes to be elite and not let your nerves get the best of you? To show up at the biggest moments?
I feel like that guy is one of the, if not THE best, clutch performers and cosches of all time in any sport. He always stepped up, and his wrestlers always seem to meet the moment.
Bring him in for halftime speeches, heck just call him and talk to him about coaching philosophy. Why not?
They broke the mold when they made Coach Cael. I cant begin to tell you the many differences between the coaching styles of JF and CS.
What I can tell you is when the greatest collegiate wrestler is your head coach it can be intimidating at first. But when he and his staff tells you that personal growth and achievement both on and off the mat is more important than than wins and losses, it doesnt take long for his wrestlers to "buy in". In Bo's freshman season he took an undefeated record into the championship match and lost and lost a close on to MM from Ohio State. He was devastated because he dream of being a 4 time undefeated champion just like Coach came to a crashing end. Coach put his hands on Bo's shoulders and said:"4 time champs come and go but people will remember you by how you respond to this and live the rest of your life".
Biggest difference, CS never threw his coaching staff or wrestlers under the bus for a loss.
last difference and then I'll close:
CS is still employed by PSU; JF isnt
That's awesome. He knows how to talk to kids, and this is why I hated Franklin's "1-0" mantra. Too much emphasis on short term, win this week results and it sends the wrong message. I believe it's why Franklin's teams usually choked in big gamesCan whoever it is bring in Cael for a weekly "clutch" talk? Like, what it takes to be elite and not let your nerves get the best of you? To show up at the biggest moments?
I feel like that guy is one of the, if not THE best, clutch performers and cosches of all time in any sport. He always stepped up, and his wrestlers always seem to meet the moment.
Bring him in for halftime speeches, heck just call him and talk to him about coaching philosophy. Why not?
They broke the mold when they made Coach Cael. I cant begin to tell you the many differences between the coaching styles of JF and CS.
What I can tell you is when the greatest collegiate wrestler is your head coach it can be intimidating at first. But when he and his staff tells you that personal growth and achievement both on and off the mat is more important than than wins and losses, it doesnt take long for his wrestlers to "buy in". In Bo's freshman season he took an undefeated record into the championship match and lost and lost a close on to MM from Ohio State. He was devastated because he dream of being a 4 time undefeated champion just like Coach came to a crashing end. Coach put his hands on Bo's shoulders and said:"4 time champs come and go but people will remember you by how you respond to this and live the rest of your life".
Biggest difference, CS never threw his coaching staff or wrestlers under the bus for a loss.
last difference and then I'll close:
CS is still employed by PSU; JF isnt
@roaminglion when you choke you still look like a good football team we look like pure shit on offense when we lose. Against ND, ole Miss, Ohio State, NW, Oregon and Michigan the offense didn’t choke they just stunk up the field and was t good. What it looks like to me is a QB that hasn’t been developed and playing in the wrong style offense. If we were throwing for 350 yards and we lose that’s one thing but the 135 yards is just bad QB play and nothing else.
Southern I must be doing a terrible job of communicating with you...I can't emphasize enough that this isn't a personnel issue...I don't care who you put in at QB it wouldn't matter...This is a coaching issue...Tonight we are going to find out a little more as we peel the onion so to speak...Franklin is gone now so he is out of the equation...Lets see what happens tonight...The issues with this team was coaching PERIOD...Not players...COACHING...Lets see if we get any changes tonight...Allar wasn't the issue...
@the-funeral-director McSorely and Clifford beat Michigan and Ohio State and set most of the records at Penn State so I have no clue what you have been watching FD. The QB plays has sucked for the last 3 years that’s just the facts. 0-8 the last 3 years
James Franklin didn’t throw all the INT in crunch time against the heavyweights. Believe what your eyes see. I’ll just leave it at that.
This point is going to help me to explain this better to you...YES you are 100% correct...Franklin didn't throw those interceptions...HOWEVER...Pay attention here Southern cause this is going to help you to understand...The coaches didn't put Allar in the position to succeed...The play calls on those plays were terrible...He obviously hasn't been well coached because he would know on 1st down not to throw the ball into triple coverage and to throw it into the seats and live for another play...The film study and game prep has been terrible along with the offensive game planning...Shall we get into the time management at the end of the half and end of the game? This is coaching not the talent or personnel...We are going to find out tonight if it was a Franklin problem holding back the assistant coaches or if this was a coaching issue with the assistant coaches and position coaches as well...
@the-funeral-director he was a 3 year starter and this problem wasn’t happening until DA showed up. Look at the stats, DA most of time got outplayed by the other QB even when we won. It’s James Franklin’s fault for not benching him and I seen this shit live during the Ole Miss game and I told y’all how bad he was and we would struggle on offense with him at QB. I told yall this 3 years ago. He’s not the type of QB we need.
Not true...For starters the kid had 3 different OC's in his career...How many big games has this team won in the 12 years Franklin was there? Go check out the QB stats for every big game in that time...You will see they are all about the same...
@the-funeral-director yeah, he got 1 OC fired and 6 WR’s run off and the production of the 3 WR’s we brought in this year numbers are way down from what they were doing last year. We see the field differently buddy we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one lol
I was talking about Franklin's 12 years in general, not just 6 games.@roaminglion when you choke you still look like a good football team we look like pure shit on offense when we lose. Against ND, ole Miss, Ohio State, NW, Oregon and Michigan the offense didn’t choke they just stunk up the field and was t good. What it looks like to me is a QB that hasn’t been developed and playing in the wrong style offense. If we were throwing for 350 yards and we lose that’s one thing but the 135 yards is just bad QB play and nothing else.
No, Trace McSorley and Clifford threw thrm too. Quite a bit actually.James Franklin didn’t throw all the INT in crunch time against the heavyweights. Believe what your eyes see. I’ll just leave it at that.
@roaminglion McSorely and Clifford also beat Michigan and Ohio State and McSorely helped win a big 10 championship and the teams weren’t as good as they’ve been the last 3 years.
Here is Trace McSorley's career stats...
| Penn State Nittany Lions | |||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Season | Games | Passing | Rushing | ||||||||||||||
| GP | GS | Record | Cmp | Att | Pct | Yds | Avg | Lng | TD | Int | Rtg | Att | Yds | Avg | Lng | TD | |
| 2014 | 0 | 0 | — | Redshirted  |
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| 2015 | 6 | 0 | — | 20 | 40 | 50.0 | 185 | 9.3 | 21 | 2 | 0 | 105.4 | 13 | 43 | 3.3 | 14 | 0 |
| 2016 | 14 | 14 | 11–3 | 224 | 387 | 57.9 | 3,614 | 16.1 | 80 | 30 | 8 | 156.6 | 146 | 365 | 2.5 | 26 | 7 |
| 2017 | 13 | 13 | 11–2 | 284 | 427 | 66.5 | 3,570 | 12.6 | 85 | 28 | 10 | 162.4 | 144 | 491 | 3.4 | 36 | 11 |
| 2018 | 13 | 13 | 9–4 | 192 | 361 | 53.2 | 2,530 | 13.2 | 93 | 18 | 7 | 124.6 | 170 | 798 | 4.7 | 51 | 12 |
| Career | 46 | 40 | 31–9 | 720 | 1,215 | 59.3 | 9,899 | 13.7 | 93 | 77 | 25 | 144.5 | 473 | 1,697 | 3.6 | 51 | 30 |
Here is Sean Clifford's career stats...
| Season | Team | Games | Passing | Rushing | |||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| GP | GS | Record | Cmp | Att | Pct | Yds | Avg | TD | Int | Rtg | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | |||
| 2017 | Penn State | Redshirted |
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| 2018 | Penn State | 4 | 0 | — | 5 | 7 | 71.4 | 195 | 27.9 | 2 | 0 | 399.7 | 5 | −3 | −0.6 | 0 | |
| 2019 | Penn State | 12 | 12 | 10–2 | 189 | 219 | 59.2 | 2,654 | 8.3 | 23 | 7 | 148.5 | 116 | 402 | 3.5 | 5 | |
| 2020 | Penn State | 9 | 8 | 4–4 | 152 | 251 | 60.6 | 1,883 | 7.5 | 16 | 9 | 137.4 | 99 | 335 | 3.4 | 3 | |
| 2021 | Penn State | 13 | 13 | 7–6 | 261 | 428 | 61.0 | 3,107 | 7.3 | 21 | 8 | 134.4 | 99 | 163 | 1.6 | 2 | |
| 2022 | Penn State | 13 | 13 | 11–2 | 226 | 351 | 64.4 | 2,822 | 8.0 | 24 | 7 | 150.5 | 69 | 176 | 2.6 | 5 | |
| Career | 51 | 46 | 32–14 | 833 | 1,356 | 61.4 | 10,661 | 7.9 | 86 | 31 | 143.8 | 388 | 1,073 | 2.8 | 15 | ||
Here are Drew Allar's career stats
| Season | Team | Games | Passing | Rushing | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| GP | GS | Record | Cmp | Att | Pct | Yds | Y/A | TD | Int | Rtg | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | ||
| 2022 | Penn State | 10 | 0 | — | 35 | 60 | 58.3 | 344 | 5.7 | 4 | 0 | 128.5 | 18 | 52 | 2.9 | 1 |
| 2023 | Penn State | 13 | 13 | 10−3 | 233 | 389 | 59.9 | 2,631 | 6.8 | 25 | 2 | 136.9 | 74 | 206 | 2.8 | 4 |
| 2024 | Penn State | 16 | 16 | 13−3 | 262 | 394 | 66.5 | 3,327 | 8.4 | 24 | 8 | 153.5 | 96 | 302 | 3.1 | 6 |
| 2025 | Penn State | 6 | 6 | 3−3 | 103 | 159 | 64.8 | 1,100 | 6.9 | 8 | 3 | 135.7 | 36 | 172 | 4.8 | 1 |
| Career | 45 | 35 | 26−9 | 633 | 1,002 | 63.2 | 7,402 | 7.4 | 61 | 13 | 142.7 | 224 | 732 | 3.3 | 12 | |
As far as I am concerned those stats are pretty much identical with the outlier being McSorley's run stats because of the OC at the time...I don't care who the QB is because the coaching was the same...And there is one coach who had his hand in this amongst all of those OC's...Franklin...Lets see what happens tonight offensively...
Trace 2017 looks a lot like DA 2014, both Jr Year.
Big difference is one was 4* Pro Style QB? ie one played above his perceived ceiling and one fit the offense better? Boiling it down.
look at the win/loss records...The stats and everything else...They are all almost identical with the exception of McSorley's run stats...
Clifford beat Michigan when they sucked, and once when they were 9-4. Cliford wasn't playing 11-0 Michigan when he beat them, so stop acting like they were some big win. Allar beat teams with better records and rankings that Michigan those years.@roaminglion McSorely and Clifford also beat Michigan and Ohio State and McSorely helped win a big 10 championship and the teams weren’t as good as they’ve been the last 3 years.
Simply because they are Michigan doesn't mean shit, they sucked one of those years and were average the other. When they were actually good, we lost. To be more specific... Clifford got smoked.
@underlion exactly! Come on FD besides the running stats the one that’s needed in our offense
@roaminglion Clifford has the game won in 2021 but the defense couldn’t get it done. Picking on Clifford and McSorely is ludicrous when both QB’s own most of the stats for gods sakes. DA never had a win against the heavyweights that’s the facts.
I am not picking on either. but you are inventing BS excuses.@roaminglion Clifford has the game won in 2021 but the defense couldn’t get it done. Picking on Clifford and McSorely is ludicrous when both QB’s own most of the stats for gods sakes. DA never had a win against the heavyweights that’s the facts.
Now Clifford "had the game won" and it's the defenses fault? LMAO now we are giving credit to a QB for a game we lost?
FFS Southern, he had the ball in his hands, down by 4 with over 3 damn minutes left in the game. He went 1-4 and turned it over on downs. You BS arguement is so damn disingenuous it's laughable. First time I ever heard of a QB having the ball in his hands with 3 minutes left in the game with a chance to win it... and blaming the damn defense for a loss. LMAO
If Allar had the ball with 3 minutes left, you'd for damn sure be blaming him for the loss. Stop this BS
@southern-psu-fan MSoreely was the only qb that did well and I think he did well because he scrambled so much. We beat Ohio State because of a blocked field goal and a great defense. There were times we outplayed Ohio State but still lost to them.
@cohappy his feet was the biggest part of his game and McSorely could also throw the ball. We had game winning drives with McSorley and Clifford.
