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Look it up Roam and you will see how these lowlife scumbags pulling the strings makes the team they want to win the NC if it becomes opinion and not played on the field.  

1919, 1930,1954,1957,1961,1964,1966,1968,1969,1970,1973,1974,1978,1994,1997,2003,2016. Notice all the team I told you they show favoritism to and you’ll see they went out of their way to make sure their team either won the NC or at least had a share of it. It’s always the same teams getting the favoritism. 68,69,74,94,2016 stick out at me because penn st was up against one of the teams that gets favoritism and we always finish 2nd or 3rd depending on the year. It’s right in front of your eyes Roam. Hell there’s one year where they voted Texas Nebraska and Ohio st all 3 NC lol. I told you brother when up against any of these teams you can forget it, it ain’t happening.aint no conspiracy they don’t even try to hide it.


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The B1G's glory years of the 20's to 60's was nothing but an opinionated scam also.

The B1G sucks today and has always sucked. 

We don't belong in this shitty overhyped conference.


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I’m not going to disagree on that  remoh 



   
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Brother, 1994 had nothing at all to do with favoritism or Nebraska or anything else but contractual obligation to the Rose Bowl. Plain and simple! No conspiracy theory, no scam committee, nothing!!



   
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This is the most bizarre thread ever on this forum!  YIKES 



   
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Look up the years snake and look at the teams and you will see



   
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Navylion, had Ohio st finish undefeated in 94 do you think they would’ve shared the NC with Nebraska? Remember Michigan and Nebraska shared it in 97. Joe Paterno even called out the favoritism in 94. He call it sympathy lol


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Posted by: Southern psu fan

Look up the years snake and look at the teams and you will see

Why do you keep asking us to "look it up"? It's a KNOWN FACT that in 1994 the bowl alliance would put the #1 vs. #2 teams against each other in one of the major bowls. The Rose Bowl abstained from that alliance, AND THAT IS WHY WE NEVER PLAYED NEBRASKA.

If the Rose Bowl had been part of the coalition, we would have played them for the title. Nothing else matters, it's all opinion. The simple, irrefutable fact is the Rose Bowl denied us the chance at playing #1 Nebraska for the title because they refused to allow Nebraska to play in the Rose Bowl, or for us to play anywhere else.



   
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I know how the big 10 played the PAC 10 in the Rose Bowl I’m not talking about that I’m talking about it depends on what team it is. Same crap with the Rose in 68 and 70 where they shared the titles. 1997 Nebraska and Michigan shared the title. Depends on who the teams are rather they get a share of the NC. I’m telling you to look it up on how many times these crooks went out of their way to share the title. I’m showing you if you’re up against any of the teams I mentioned you can for it you won’t get a share of the NC. They always have and always will show favoritism towards the teams I said!


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Posted by: Southern psu fan

I know how the big 10 played the PAC 10 in the Rose Bowl I’m not talking about that I’m talking about it depends on what team it is. Same crap with the Rose in 68 and 70 where they shared the titles. 1997 Nebraska and Michigan shared the title. Depends on who the teams are rather they get a share of the NC. I’m telling you to look it up on how many times these crooks went out of their way to share the title. I’m showing you if you’re up against any of the teams I mentioned you can for it you won’t get a share of the NC. They always have and always will show favoritism towards the teams I said!

Split National Champs has happened 10 times since 1950. Twice it was none of the teams you mentioned and involved Colorado / Georgia Tech in 1990 &  Miami / Washington in 1991

So 8 times times in 68 years one of your Big Dawgs split, and would have been less if the Rose joined the alliance because we would have played Nebraska and Michigan would have as well. 8 times in 68 years is hardly common.

I know what you're saying, and yeah I get it to an extent. But in 1994 none of that would have mattered if the Rose just got off their a$$ and allowed the two best teams to play each other.



   
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Brother your talking different eras and different selection systems, it hasn't been the same process for selecting the NC. The AP poll champion system then the Bowl coalition to the bowl alliance to the BCS to the current CFP system. Each had different processes. So you can't look at the decades and look at it all the same. 

The way you are looking at it is as if it was the same process through all the years which it wasn’t. So how it was determined in the 80’s was different during the early 90’s which was different in the later 90’s which was different in the early 2000’s which is different now in the latter 2000’s!

So to answer your question no, OSU would not have shared it in 1994 because they would have played in the Rose bowl which was not part of the bowl coalition which decided the NC. Read below.

More specifically, the Bowl Coalition consisted of five conferences (the SECBig 8SWCACC, and Big East), independent Notre Dame, and seven bowl games (the OrangeSugarCottonFiestaGatorJohn Hancock/Sun, and, for the 1992 season only, the Blockbuster bowl).

It did not include the champions of the Big Ten and Pac-10, both of whom were contractually obligated to play in the Rose Bowl. The Coalition's founders tried to get the Tournament of Roses Association to release the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to play in a title game if one of them was ranked #1 or #2 in the Bowl Poll, but it refused to do so due to concerns about this potentially violating its television contract with ABC.

So it basically came to contractual obligation and not a scam committee conspiracy theory, at least in 1994!

 



   
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Wow there are some seriously think headed people on this forum.

Southern You're even worse than I am at explaining things.



   
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They split it in 97 with Nebraska and Michigan...that’s my point it depends on what team it is. Had Ohio st or Michigan been undefeated in 94 they would’ve got a share of the NC just like Michigan did in 97



   
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I’m having a hard time remoh  lol. I guess I can’t write what I’m trying to say lol


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Georgia Tech best Nebraska on the field in 1990 seasons



   
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UGHHHHH!!! NO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE!!



   
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Posted by: Southern psu fan

I’m having a hard time remoh  lol. I guess I can’t write what I’m trying to say lol

You're trying to say that teams like Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, etc. all get the benefit of the doubt and preferential treatment by ranking committees when they are in the mix, and we at Penn State are outsiders that will never be considered their equals therefore the only way to win a NC is to beat them on the field.

What you are saying isn't rocket science, we get it. What you don't seem to understand is we are saying in 1994 the bowls tried to actually make the two best teams play so that type of thing wouldn't happen... but the Rose Bowl was stubborn and didn't join the alliance. Therefore the same old nonsense happened and we got screwed.

Had the Rose Bowl joined the alliance, Nebraska and Penn State would have played and ranking committees wouldn't have mattered.



   
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Had all the big 10 coaches voted penn st #1 we would’ve won the NC in one poll. I’m telling y’all all the big 10 coaches would’ve voted Ohio st or Michigan #1 and they would’ve got a share. It happened in 68, 70 and 97



   
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We were ranked#1 and dropped because we didn’t run up the score on Indiana and they used that as an excuse to drop us to #2. It’s all a scam. I didn’t have Alabama on the list even though Saban gets the benefit of the doubt. Back then Alabama had to win on the field and they did.


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They did brother in 97. What’s the difference in 97 or 94 except it’s Michigan and not Penn st. These crooks vote how they want not by what’s fair.



   
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I give lol



   
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Posted by: Southern psu fan

They did brother in 97. What’s the difference in 97 or 94 except it’s Michigan and not Penn st. These crooks vote how they want not by what’s fair.

Seriously, I get it. I've gotten what you have been saying from the start.

I don't know how else to say this: None of that would have mattered if the Rose Bowl allowed us to play Nebraska. The fact that they split it was Michigan in 1997 doesn't matter, because HAD THE ROSE BOWL ALLOWED US TO PLAY NEBRASKA WE WOULD HAVE BEATEN THEM AND WON THE NATIONAL TITLE.

Had the Rose joined, it also would have allowed Michigan to play Nebraska and they wouldn't have been able to split the title.

I also find it cute how desperate the troll is to have anyone pay attention to him.



   
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Posted by: Southern psu fan

I give lol

Southern, you seem to think you can't explain it right... while you keep missing the point. We are saying we understand what you are saying, we understand the you feel Penn State doesn't get to share championships while other teams do...

But the whole point is in 1994 the "scam" as you call it would not have been possible if the Rose Bowl had joined the alliance. This is because Nebraska would have been forced to play us, and not gotten away with being voted #1 without sharing.



   
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Brother what you are not understanding is there were 2 different systems between 1994 & 1997.

94 was the Bowl Coalition which the Rose bowl wasn't part of so there could not have been a split NC with 1 of the teams being a Big 10 team regardless of who it was.

disbanded after that year and the Bowl Alliance was formed in 95 and lasted until 1997 and during that time there were the possibilities of the Big to split the NC which happened in 1997.

In 1998 the BCS was formed which changed the process again!

click on the below link and read it. It explains why it was different between 94 & 97.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

 



   
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Posted by: Navylion

Brother what you are not understanding is there were 2 different systems between 1994 & 1997.

94 was the Bowl Coalition which the Rose bowl wasn't part of so there could not have been a split NC with 1 of the teams being a Big 10 team regardless of who it was.

disbanded after that year and the Bowl Alliance was formed in 95 and lasted until 1997 and during that time there were the possibilities of the Big to split the NC which happened in 1997.

In 1998 the BCS was formed which changed the process again!

click on the below link and read it. It explains why it was different between 94 & 97.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

 

...and the Rose Bowl was not a part of either the Bowl Coalition or the Bowl Alliance. This was a big problem for the Big Ten and Pac-10 because it meant they would never be able to play in a #1 v. #2 against the other conferences or independents. The Rose was screwing it all up.



   
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