Nobody wants their family to get killed but how many families die because of super speeders out there on the road running over a 100 miles per hour running from the police? 1 cop makes a bad decision trying to slow a car down running over a 100 miles per hour so now some folks want to let all the super speeders go on without consequences and who’s to say the car might have been stolen and had not had time to get reported? There’s all kinds of shit cops have to deal with and only have seconds to make a decision. Somebody running 118 miles per hour needs to be tracked down immediately and taken to jail and if whoever is running from the cops at that speed needs to stay in jail. Always want to blame the cops.
What if the car was stolen and not been reported yet and the cop let the dude go and he killed a family down the road then folks would be blaming the cops for not going after him. That might not be the case here but the cop doesn’t know that. When folks break the law bad shit happens it’s that simple. Cops don’t know who’s in the car until they pull the car over to see.
Enforce the law or don't enforce the law, that is the question.
@rip if criminals know cops can’t chase them at high speeds most of them will never pull over. Take off hauling butt they get away with whatever they’re doing. Could be a terrorist in the car and he gets away because the cops can’t chase ‘em. Makes no sense to me brother. When you’re Atlanta down by Bankhead courts you love the cops 😂
Absolutely agree, Southern. Let the police do their jobs. If somebody's running there's a reason....and it ain't because they're late for church!
Your argument hinges on "Super speeders going on without consequence", which is ridiculous. The cops don't just let them go if they don't chase them at 120 mph with a bunch of civilians in the crosshairs. They still get them, just later.Nobody wants their family to get killed but how many families die because of super speeders out there on the road running over a 100 miles per hour running from the police? 1 cop makes a bad decision trying to slow a car down running over a 100 miles per hour so now some folks want to let all the super speeders go on without consequences and who’s to say the car might have been stolen and had not had time to get reported? There’s all kinds of shit cops have to deal with and only have seconds to make a decision. Somebody running 118 miles per hour needs to be tracked down immediately and taken to jail and if whoever is running from the cops at that speed needs to stay in jail. Always want to blame the cops.
Stop making excuses for bad behavior with other bad behavior.
"Always want to blame the cops" - Nonsense. The cops have rules and when they don't follow them then yes... I'll blame them. Specifically, when their own regulations state not engage in wreckless high speed chases... then they shouldn't do it. The regulation and/or law is in place for a reason. That's not f@#$%cking hard to understand.
@roaminglion I was talking about here in Georgia because the law here is they can chase ‘em or they wouldn’t be trying to change the law. I was just saying on blame the cops I wasn’t talking about you. When you going to catch them if you don’t know who’s in the car because I doubt they’ll turn themselves if they’re running from the cops. You gotta know who’s in the car to know who to get.
The cops gotta get ‘em now roam or odds are they won’t be able to prove who was in the car. Every once in a while you might get one but most will get away unless you get ‘em right then. I also believe more criminals will take off if they believe you’re not coming after them.
Again, I was just saying on some things I didn’t mean you wanted criminals to get away and everything wasn’t towards you that’s why I didn’t respond to your name I was just giving my opinion.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. It ain't easy being Blue.
That's incorrect. In Georgia the law stipulates:@roaminglion I was talking about here in Georgia because the law here is they can chase ‘em or they wouldn’t be trying to change the law. I was just saying on blame the cops I wasn’t talking about you. When you going to catch them if you don’t know who’s in the car because I doubt they’ll turn themselves if they’re running from the cops. You gotta know who’s in the car to know who to get.
"The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle may exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he or she does not endanger life or property"
So while it's a vague standard, it does specifically state they can't pursue at high speeds if it's endangering the public. Also, Atlanta Police Department has a no chase policy and has had it since 2020.
Yhis isn't "s*it happens" territory. It's an obvious and serious problem:
"Between 2019 and 2023, the Georgia State Police were involved in over 6,700 pursuits, resulting in more than 3,400 crashes, 63 deaths, and injuries to at least 1,900 people. Many of these chases began over misdemeanors or traffic violations, with bystanders and passengers often being the most affected."
I'm sorry... but if you believe misdemeanors and traffic violations are a good reason to risk crashes, injuries, and death to innocent people... I don't really know what to say. I'd rather they use other effective means rather than acting like Highways are the wild west.
@roaminglion Using intelligence and logic on this site is pretty much useless but keep on trying.
That's incorrect. In Georgia the law stipulates:@roaminglion I was talking about here in Georgia because the law here is they can chase ‘em or they wouldn’t be trying to change the law. I was just saying on blame the cops I wasn’t talking about you. When you going to catch them if you don’t know who’s in the car because I doubt they’ll turn themselves if they’re running from the cops. You gotta know who’s in the car to know who to get.
"The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle may exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he or she does not endanger life or property"
So while it's a vague standard, it does specifically state they can't pursue at high speeds if it's endangering the public. Also, Atlanta Police Department has a no chase policy and has had it since 2020.
Yhis isn't "s*it happens" territory. It's an obvious and serious problem:
"Between 2019 and 2023, the Georgia State Police were involved in over 6,700 pursuits, resulting in more than 3,400 crashes, 63 deaths, and injuries to at least 1,900 people. Many of these chases began over misdemeanors or traffic violations, with bystanders and passengers often being the most affected."
I'm sorry... but if you believe misdemeanors and traffic violations are a good reason to risk crashes, injuries, and death to innocent people... I don't really know what to say. I'd rather they use other effective means rather than acting like Highways are the wild west.
What are these effective means that you speak of?
High speed chases Roam scumbags running from the police not somebody doing 45 in a 25 I’m talking about criminals that are on the run from the police running over a 100 miles per hour. These high speed chases ain’t somebody doing just 11 miles an hour over the speed limit.Criminals running from the police at high speeds ain’t gettin off with a misdemeanor.
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Reckless Driving:Fleeing at speeds significantly over the limit (20 mph or more over) or driving dangerously while fleeing can lead to felony charges.
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Causing Injury or Damage:If the person causes bodily harm to another person or damages property while fleeing, it can be elevated to a felony.
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Crossing State Lines:Fleeing across state lines can also result in a felony charge.
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Repeated Offenses:A fourth or subsequent conviction for fleeing and eluding can result in a felony charge.
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Using a Vehicle:Fleeing in a vehicle can result in a felony charge, especially if it involves reckless driving or causes harm.
IMO if a cop gets behind a car for going 10 miles an hour over the speed limit that dude ain’t going to take off but if he does there’s a danger good reason he did and therefore the cops need to get ‘em there’s no telling who’s in that car and what they are up to. Just regular 10 miles an hour speeders ain’t going to run 99% of the time.
Maybe ask the Atlanta PD, or even GSP since they both have rules against chasing at high speeds if it endangers people?That's incorrect. In Georgia the law stipulates:@roaminglion I was talking about here in Georgia because the law here is they can chase ‘em or they wouldn’t be trying to change the law. I was just saying on blame the cops I wasn’t talking about you. When you going to catch them if you don’t know who’s in the car because I doubt they’ll turn themselves if they’re running from the cops. You gotta know who’s in the car to know who to get.
"The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle may exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he or she does not endanger life or property"
So while it's a vague standard, it does specifically state they can't pursue at high speeds if it's endangering the public. Also, Atlanta Police Department has a no chase policy and has had it since 2020.
Yhis isn't "s*it happens" territory. It's an obvious and serious problem:
"Between 2019 and 2023, the Georgia State Police were involved in over 6,700 pursuits, resulting in more than 3,400 crashes, 63 deaths, and injuries to at least 1,900 people. Many of these chases began over misdemeanors or traffic violations, with bystanders and passengers often being the most affected."
I'm sorry... but if you believe misdemeanors and traffic violations are a good reason to risk crashes, injuries, and death to innocent people... I don't really know what to say. I'd rather they use other effective means rather than acting like Highways are the wild west.
What are these effective means that you speak of?
If not... then Starcase is one alternative. It launches a GPS tracker onto the car. Or using all the traffic cameras available to the police. Drones are very effective as well and being more widely adopted. Also, newer cars with self driving and other features can be remotely shut down.
Or maybe... quite simply it doesn't matter as in recent years, law enforcement agencies have come to believe the danger police chases pose to innocent citizens most often far outweighs the benefits of capturing a fleeing suspect. Which is why police have rules in place for not participating in them unless absolutely necessary. Many have adopted the no chase policy unless it is a violent crime or child hostage. Because they realize endagering innocents isn't worth chasing a a car for a traffic violation.
Yet most police forces disagree with you and have rules that specifically state not to endanger innocent people because someone "might" be in the car who is violent.IMO if a cop gets behind a car for going 10 miles an hour over the speed limit that dude ain’t going to take off but if he does there’s a danger good reason he did and therefore the cops need to get ‘em there’s no telling who’s in that car and what they are up to. Just regular 10 miles an hour speeders ain’t going to run 99% of the time.
@roaminglion I don’t know if most disagree with me or we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Let a cop get behind a car speeding and the cop puts the blue lights on and the car takes off running I’d bet most cops take off after the speeder in most scenarios.
In Atlanta that's against police procedures and a violation. The cops are explicitly told not to do so.@roaminglion I don’t know if most disagree with me or we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Let a cop get behind a car speeding and the cop puts the blue lights on and the car takes off running I’d bet most cops take off after the speeder in most scenarios.
Did y’all see that punk ass piece of garbage keying Tesla cars in Minnesota doing 1000’s of dollars in damages and they have the dude on camera and the DA didn’t press charges? Dude doing that kind of shit needs to be put in jail and needs to stay in jail. Destroying other people’s property gets under my skin.
