This article shows just how great the goat Joe Paterno was. I believe joes teams were more physical than the James Franklin teams and imo Franklin has recruited better than joe did going by the stars. Joe did a better job developing the guys he recruited. James Franklin is still good and he’s still a young head coach but he needs to get his head back in the game. 4-5 and 7-6 ain’t going to cut it especially in year 7 and 8 I don’t care what the circumstances are. Hopefully he gets this team back in the top 10 this year he’s good enough to do it if he’s got his head in the game.
Franklin isn’t a young coach. He has been a head coach for 13+ years. He recruits well but not great at developing players and managing the game. Don’t think we will see a change in his performance.
Great article! I think the following excerpts get to the root of the problem as I see it:
"The biggest difference is that Paterno believed that tradition was the way, that the same basic tenements of blocking, tackling, discipline, and making fewer mistakes than the other guy would be enough on the field....... Franklin has been and, even as he enters his 50s, remains a believer in innovation. .....his desire to keep up with, if not surpass, the Joneses has permeated every other aspect of the program, from facilities to branding to use of analytics."
Maybe this is why we don't see the "stars" Jimmy recruits translate to success on the field. Seems like developing players through a focus on the basics has taken a back seat to being innovative and relying on what he perceives to be the latest hot trends in the sport.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Great article! I think the following excerpts get to the root of the problem as I see it:
"The biggest difference is that Paterno believed that tradition was the way, that the same basic tenements of blocking, tackling, discipline, and making fewer mistakes than the other guy would be enough on the field....... Franklin has been and, even as he enters his 50s, remains a believer in innovation. .....his desire to keep up with, if not surpass, the Joneses has permeated every other aspect of the program, from facilities to branding to use of analytics."
Maybe this is why we don't see the "stars" Jimmy recruits translate to success on the field. Seems like developing players through a focus on the basics has taken a back seat to being innovative and relying on what he perceives to be the latest hot trends in the sport.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Imagine if Franklin could combine his way with Paterno's way. Ugh, I think that's what frustrates many of us... So much potential if we could just get back some of that Paterno discipline and fundamentals.
I probably should’ve said he’s in his prime of his HC career but regardless, he’s good enough and young enough to get this thing turned around.
this is what I’m talking about baby. Great job james Franklin
@southern-psu-fan Oops, guess I should have read all the posts before I started a new Rappleyea thread
This article shows just how great the goat Joe Paterno was. I believe joes teams were more physical than the James Franklin teams and imo Franklin has recruited better than joe did going by the stars. Joe did a better job developing the guys he recruited. James Franklin is still good and he’s still a young head coach but he needs to get his head back in the game. 4-5 and 7-6 ain’t going to cut it especially in year 7 and 8 I don’t care what the circumstances are. Hopefully he gets this team back in the top 10 this year he’s good enough to do it if he’s got his head in the game.
There's only one GOAT. Muhammad Ali.
You must have missed that beating the great Larry Holmes put on Ali?
5 losses. One by the Easton assassin. I liked Muhammad Ali. He had that one and only stance and rhythm. These pro boxers start off young in childhood. That's how they become so good.
This article shows just how great the goat Joe Paterno was. I believe joes teams were more physical than the James Franklin teams and imo Franklin has recruited better than joe did going by the stars. Joe did a better job developing the guys he recruited. James Franklin is still good and he’s still a young head coach but he needs to get his head back in the game. 4-5 and 7-6 ain’t going to cut it especially in year 7 and 8 I don’t care what the circumstances are. Hopefully he gets this team back in the top 10 this year he’s good enough to do it if he’s got his head in the game.
There's only one GOAT. Muhammad Ali.
Not even close
5 losses. One by the Easton assassin. I liked Muhammad Ali. He had that one and only stance and rhythm. These pro boxers start off young in childhood. That's how they become so good.
Ali was an @$$hole, plain and simple. May have been a great boxer, but he was a complete sh*t human. Frazier helped him get back into boxing after basically dodging the draft, and he repaid his help by calling him an Uncle Tom and betraying his race. Shuned his friend Malcolm X because he started speaking the truth, etc. etc. etc
POS.
@roaminglion exactly right! Ken Norton whipped his butt all 3 fights. Lot of shady stuff went on with Ali. He was a great fighter but not the greatest. I’d put him around 5th best which is great just not the greatest
@blushoes Thought in an earlier post you mentioned having a vegetable garden.
As for Ali and his self anointed "I am the greatest", ranks right up there w/ Dallas calling themselves "America's Team".
Hoah, hoah. Slow down there fella. Don't go slobbering allover me.
He dedicated his post-retirement years to philanthropy and humanitarianism, pursuits that took him all around the world: to Iraq, to negotiate the release of American hostages; to Cuba, to deliver medical aid; to Afghanistan and North Korea, on goodwill missions with the UN.
Hoah, hoah. Slow down there fella. Don't go slobbering allover me.
He dedicated his post-retirement years to philanthropy and humanitarianism, pursuits that took him all around the world: to Iraq, to negotiate the release of American hostages; to Cuba, to deliver medical aid; to Afghanistan and North Korea, on goodwill missions with the UN.
What's it have to do with you? I was talking about Ali. And he was a guy trying to buy back all the hate he spewed for years. He said he wanted to uplift the black community, yet consistently spewed hate and racist comments towards his black opponents.
Doing the charity work was great, but in certain ways easy. What would have been hard? Not attacking or belittling people when it affected him personally. Could he make money off you by calling you an Uncle Tom? By calling you racist things? Yes? Well then he'd do it. Again, POS.
Humanitarian work in his later years doesn't wash away his bulldozing of everyone and anyone in his way during his career.
Here's the epitome of why I think Ali is a POS (taken from another post, but sums up my feelings):
Joe Frazier was a devout believer in civil rights and a proud black man, but when it was announced that he'd be fighting Ali again, Ali went to every news source that would listen and labeled Frazier an "Uncle Tom". He did this so frequently that Frazier was starting to be labeled as a "white champion in a black mans body" and Ali was made out to be the one fighting for civil rights, despite Ali thinking whites and blacks should be separate. These comments got so bad that Frazier's KIDS would get viciously bullied by their peers at school, Frazier and his family couldn't go out in public without being humiliated and his entire family was sent multiple death threats, to the point that he had to be placed under police protection. Ali repeatedly said shit like the following, calling him an ugly gorilla and an Uncle Tom.
"Ninety-eight percent of my people are for me. They identify with my struggle. ... If I win, they win. I lose, they lose. Anybody black who thinks Frazier can whup me is an Uncle Tom"
Most fucked up part about this? Ali did this to a man who had once called him friend. When Ali was put into jail for draft dodging, Frazier not only loaned Ali money, but testified before Congress and petitioned the president to let Ali fight, saying the following: "If Baptists weren't allowed to fight, I wouldn't fight either." This man was Ali's friend and a man who had gone out of his way to help Ali do what he loved. What they both loved. And Ali stabbed him in the back and ruined not only HIS life but his family's lives as well.
Do you know what Ali said he would do if Frazier won? He promised he would acknowledge Frazier as the GOAT. Do you know what Ali actually did when Frazier won? He once again brought race Into their fight and said that it was a "white man's decision".
And you seem to be no better than calling him a POS. I'll sign off now. It's holy week.
And you seem to be no better than calling him a POS. I'll sign off now. It's holy week.
What an idiotic comparison. Race baiting, abandoning friends, draft dodging...
All the same as calling someone a POS for actually doing those things. LMAO
End it .This topic started with GOAT. First thing that came to my mind was Muhammad Ali. Never in my entire life have I heard Joe PA being referenced as GOAT. Never. So stop it. Stop stealing slogans of others and there won't be a problem.
End it .This topic started with GOAT. First thing that came to my mind was Muhammad Ali. Never in my entire life have I heard Joe PA being referenced as GOAT. Never. So stop it. Stop stealing slogans of others and there won't be a problem.
1. I never said anyone was the GOAT, that's wasn't me.
2. Perhaps you need reading glasses, because this topic started as a comparison of Paterno & Franklin... Not who was the GOAT.
3. Congrats on getting just about everything wrong in your most recent post.
