It would make a nice grudge match and some attraction for a secondary bowl.  We are both qualified with 6 wins.  VTech loses today then next week to Miami and then the 'rivalry game' with VA.  JF will not win a big game against Miami but he should beat Pribula and VA.

Losing stinks but when your backs are up against the wall and the walls are coming down ain’t it fun to watch this Penn St team fight like hell just like last year to climb out back up the ladder? I know we’re 6-4 and we’ve lost a few games we had a chance to win but you gotta be proud to see this team not give up and now are starting to jell. Ain’t shit gone right this year and these dudes are still fighting to get wins. I may be wrong about D-Lynn after watching a few competitive games and watching the dudes up front I believe they’re gettin tired so roam I believe you’re right and I was wrong about the defense. I do still believe Amare Cambell could’ve helped out big time but in all honesty we just need to get a few studs in here and we’ll be okay. Overpay Rojas and get his ass back here next year that’s the good thing about this system is these dudes will come back if the money is right. I’d rather be 10-0 right now but I’m very happy what I’m seeing on the field. I didn’t give the team time to jell together and that’s on me and I’m glad I was wrong because me being wrong advantages Penn St football baby 😁 man I’m smelling 9-4….how sweet it is!

Are me and underlion the only 2 that want VT in a bowl game? That dang Wisconsin game still pisses me off 😭

@southern-psu-fan I only want that game if I get to listen to the JF Postgame wine session.

VA Tech took a step backwards yesterday.  Grunk is probably an above average QB with upside but JF Coaching isn't a dependable QB Developer.  Luke Reynolds is a nice TE but was shut down yesterday.  It seemed VTech shut down in the second half and didn't make adjustments.  After 3 turnovers in the first they  didn't recover.  I still ponder if JF just has problems with the psychological side of team building.  I always hated his taking inappropriate risks early in a big game.  I thought it told the team they were inferior and they had to take risks.  It says 'the coach doesn't believe in us'.

I didn't like us going for it on our side of the field in the MN game.  We had momentum and not getting it would have destroyed the momentum.  But good execution trumps bad plans.  We tend to forget the other team also gets to plan and execute as do the referees...  They reviewed a first down that we got by a yard because Fleck also knew that was a huge momentum play.

The old AL and OSU doesn't take chances.  They just keep paddling the boat and the game comes to them.  It communicates that they are superior and lets players play 'in the zone'.  Then you have poor DA that won't even throw a risky pass down 6 with 30 seconds to go...  Part of the risk reward equation includes momentum.  Not just field position, clock and points.  The computer only tells you some probabilities and it is probably 'against the generic ballot'.  A coach has to take that as an input but feel the game.

@underlion  I want the game because I want to beat James Franklin and all the Penn St players on the VT team and it will be fun 😂

JF will not call in outside consultation and I don't know if he could even benefit from it e.g. Saban calls in the sports psychologist to help his staff and players understand and work through the psyche part of the game. The more podcast I watch with Saban, the more I see why he excelled, and don't even go down the road of paying players yada yada; he still had to develop those dudes into a unified team that could achieve greatness. JF cannot develop talent further than the natural talent of the player and for that matter his assistant coaches. Not saying he is a crap coach just that he hit the Peter Principal in 2024, imo.

IMO the root of the problem with JF was the "1-0" mentality. Everything was win this next game at all cost, it's the only thing that matters. That makes people play tight, the goal should not be reset weekly to "win".

Saban hardly mentioned winning, if ever. It was about the process... the process of getting better every day. Making the last play your best, and trying to make it better the next play. The goal was not to win, the goal was to play the best you could. If you do that, the wins will come. You won't get tight. You are prepared to make every play count. 

Let’s be fair and also say Saban usually had the best players all over field and that makes winning a lot easier and I’m a big fan of Saban but having 5* players all over the field is a huge advantage.

'The process' was adopted by Saban but lots of people before him had that understanding.  Hell, manufacturing is about process, process control, continuous improvement, SPC, Operational Excellence.  Manufacturing also understands that quality of raw materials matters.  Part of the Saban Process was best recruits (Raw material inputs) and education doesn't matter much.  He liked to sell the positive part of his 'process' but like Southern notes above he also had most teams he played beat in 'raw material' quality.  He had the pick of the litter for a long time, until things changed.

Dominant teams thruout history have had top talent.  Look at PSU wrestling, Wooden Basketball, Nebraska or Russ Rhodes Women's Volleyball. I would propose there is a difference between Cael and Nick though.  Or Cael and the Brands Brothers at Iowa.