Old Yeller, Im going to post this on the outdoors forum so you wont have an opportunity to gripe that it has nothing to do with football.

If you feel that I or any other member of this forum have misrepresented our service to our country, i would strongly suggest that you make contact either on facebook or by googling the Stolen Valor Committee and have them look into your concerns.  This is an organization that at one time I was very actively involved in and they have an uncanny way of finding the truth.  As for me, i have no doubt of either mine, or the service of my fellow vets that you call old geezers on this forum.  There is a certain verbiage that is used by us that leaves no doubt in my mind that we've all served.  So, step up to the plate and take your best swing.  I think at the end of this, you'll find that we're all likeable guys and who knows.....maybe even a few friendships will result from all this.

The funny thing is, when i came home from Nam i was somewhat ashamed to admit or tell anyone i served because of the stigma that was attached to us at that time.  Back then, people would come up to us an inquire as to whether we served or not and many times for our own safety and the safety of our families, we denied it and felt a terrible guilt inside us.  Now, 50 years later; when we tell people we served our country we're being told we're liars and once again publicly shamed.  But one things is constant, the vibes of hatred I felt in the late 60's and early 70's are the same vibes i get from you and your anti-vet posts.  So please do your due diligence and find the answers you seek.  Heck, if you want, c'mon up to Maine sometime and i'll gladly show you whatever you need to see to convince you.

For the record, i really dont mind the "old man" reference you use on me.  My wife calls me old man and the kids call me pap so that moniker has no effect on me at all.  I rather enjoy it.  I'd like to extend an olive branch to you: I think i recall you once saying that the oil companies were giving you some trouble with your hunting camp land you owned.  My son is an environmental lawyer that has been doing battle against the oil companies trying to help landowners get the money they deserve and retain the mineral rights that were wrongly taken from them.  If you're still in that situation, i can perhaps try to hook you two up if you'd like.  Give it some thought.

T