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(@mtnittanylion)
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You all catch the explanation of who makes it in the playoffs at the end of the year? And how the seating goes?  I think I understand it, but this is going to be a fiasco for at least the first year. You can finish 12th in the final Poles and not make it in. Penn State can be ranked 12th, Liberty wins their conference championship, be ranked 19th and they would bump Penn State out.....just as an example.

 

What I do like is the first round of games will be held at the the higher ranked teams field.  If PSU plays Bama ( for example ), and PSU is seated higher, that game would be a Beaver Stadium.  Maybe or maybe not, but this could sit well for Big 10 teams playing SEC teams if the Big 10 team is the home field.  Would love to see GA, BAMA, Texas or Ole Miss play up North in freezing weather! 

This new system is going to favor the Big10 vs SEC teams....IMO.  Either play in warm weather if they are seated lower or play in cold weather that SEC teams are not used to and the BIG 10 is accustomed to.  We always said we love to see SEC teams play in weather like we do, so now we most likely get that chance.  And dang do I hope we have a BIG snow season this December!

 

Not sure if I explained this well, but hopefully you get my drift! 

 

GO STATE!!!

 

 



   
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(@southern-psu-fan)
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Under this system I’d rather take the top 12 and where the chips fall, they fall. What I’d really like considering there’s only 4 power conferences is take 4 conference champs and let them 4 settle it. Next week brother we will get some Penn St football. 😁


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Tony T
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I can remember everyone bellyaching how unfair the college football playoff is.  That's going all the way back to the penn live days, 2006.  The new system is here. Recruit better, play better, win the games and every team has a chance. 



   
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@mastert  you must have missed the pay for play.



   
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If history is an accurate predictor of the future, there will be unhappiness with the play-off system and claims of bias and unfairness.  The inevitable result will be calls for change. 

 

The answer is a 128-Team, Random-Draw Tournament that begins in Week 6 and runs through Week 12.  Teams can play whomever they desire during Weeks 1 through 5.  The results of the games during weeks 1 through 5 do not matter because the Tournament is a Random-Draw Tournament.  Following the Tournament, there is room for Rivalry Games in weeks 13 and 14.  Bowl games can also be played from mid-December until New Year's Day. 

 

The result will be a true national champion based on the performance of the entire team which includes the staff and other university personnel.  The weekly match-up determination process is entirely independent because there is no seeding.  The opinion of the "experts" is not considered during game scheduling.   The attached file shows the progression of teams based on wins and losses throughout the entire 7-week tournament.  

128 Team Playoff

 

 

 



   
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@tae-buetel I know you always post this, but it is an absolutely horrible idea IMO.

1. No one will care about weeks 1-5. Why would they? It's preseason BS. Same stuff no one shows up for or cares about in the NFL.

2. Lose in week 6, what are any of those teams playing for? Makes no sense. Just play to play? Fans won't care. Players practically wont care.

You're completely killing any sort of pagentry and regular season at all for sake of just a playoff. It still would not settle an argument, because people would all point to many examples in other sports leagues where regular seasons matter MUCH MORE than just a elimination playoff.

The most popular sport in the world, soccer, demonstrates this perfectly. The winners of the regular season are often considered the best team in the league, not the winners of the tournaments that league participates in. Winning the Premier League is a bigger deal that winning the FA Cup (a true playoff like the one you propose)

I am very much against this idea. 



   
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Tae Beutel
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@roaminglion The "pageantry" is already gone - the progression from the Bowl Coalition to the Bowl Alliance to the BCS and finally the playoffs resulted in only a few teams being in a position to compete for the national title.  The conference realignments destroyed what was left of the "pageantry".   The result was predictable but people were motivated by money or limited cognitive ability or whatever.  

 

Despite most teams not being in a position to compete for the national title during the past 30 years, people still watched the games and were enthusiastic about their school. Did teams quit when they lost and knew they could not make it into the Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS or Playoff game?  No, they did not.  They got on the field the next week and tried to win.

 

The teams will play every week.  A 1-loss team will play another 1-loss team for the honor of remaining in the 1-loss Bracket.  It will be the same for all of the brackets.  If a player "opts out", next man up.  The games will be more interesting when those who don't want to be there are gone.

 



   
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Posted by: @tae-buetel

@roaminglion The "pageantry" is already gone - the progression from the Bowl Coalition to the Bowl Alliance to the BCS and finally the playoffs resulted in only a few teams being in a position to compete for the national title.  The conference realignments destroyed what was left of the "pageantry".   The result was predictable but people were motivated by money or limited cognitive ability or whatever.  

 

Despite most teams not being in a position to compete for the national title during the past 30 years, people still watched the games and were enthusiastic about their school. Did teams quit when they lost and knew they could not make it into the Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS or Playoff game?  No, they did not.  They got on the field the next week and tried to win.

 

The teams will play every week.  A 1-loss team will play another 1-loss team for the honor of remaining in the 1-loss Bracket.  It will be the same for all of the brackets.  If a player "opts out", next man up.  The games will be more interesting when those who don't want to be there are gone.

 

People watched because there was hope of winning a conference, or playing a rival hard when it mattered. This would be completely gone, especially for Group of 5 teams. Boise State, East Carolina, USF? You'd essentially be making most of DI like the, FCS/DII/DIII. Nothing really to play for.

I disagree with your assertion that games would be more interesting with opt-outs gone. Most people could have cared less about Ole Miss and PSU playing last year, because everyone knew it wasn't starters playing. No point other than a glorifies spring game

Plenty of leagues don't play full round robins and select teams into a playoff. I don't think there is anyone complaining that only 68 teams make the NCAA Tournament. In fact, most people are telling them to stop expanding it, because it is too much.

 


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@roaminglion    I am not an advocate for a playoff system - I prefer the bowl system that was in place in the 80s. 

I do enjoy the Group-of-5 games and I do like going to Birmingham to watch the University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB).  It’s an enjoyable game day atmosphere, the costs are reasonable and the traffic is not maddening.  As an added bonus, the games are fun to watch.  Last year, there were 1,079 yards of offense during the game between UAB and South Florida.  Most games are not as exciting but those young men are talented and fully engaged. 

Last year was the first year that UAB was in the American Athletic Conference (AAC).  The results were disappointing but we attended the home games and were able to watch many other games on TV.  Based on the activity on X, many other fans were engaged as well.  And like the Power 5 programs, some fans were a little fanatic. 

Thanks for the civil discussion; let's have a great season.



   
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@tae-buetel That's awesome Tae, I hear UAB's new stadium is amazing!

Yes, hope this is a great season!!!!



   
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@roaminglion  The stadium is awesome and they done a lot of road work in Birmingham riding through there is very nice. Everything looks new and a lot of it is. I love driving through down down Birmingham.



   
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