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(@roaminglion)
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Posted by: @underlion

But it was the only way we would see another QB.

 

Now I will turn the knife, how is Beau doing?

He plays on a run heavy team and in his first big game he threw 2 INTs... the last  losing the game.

So... Same.

 



   
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Maybe he runs better 🙂

 

You know the deal, the backup QB is always better when you aren't getting it done.  Until he isn't.  And then you have mediocre QB's that are gods because they have a great O-Line and skill players.



   
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@roaminglion its Alabama he was playing not NW so there’s a huge difference. It’s also his first year with Missouri DA been doing this shit for 3 freaking years now. You just got use to a shit show on offense.


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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan

@roaminglion its Alabama he was playing not NW so there’s a huge difference. It’s also his first year with Missouri DA been doing this shit for 3 freaking years now. You just got use to a shit show on offense.

FFS just stop it at this point. DA throws interceptions in big games, now Pribula does. Now it's excuses central for Pribula. Same chit different day.

 


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The first three games showed the status of the team and coaches to a T. 

  • Play calling
  • Undersized D'Line
  • Uncoordinated D'
  • Wrong QB and wrong type of QB for O scheme
  • Wrong starting RB
  • Overall poor transfer portal player integration
  • JF skill set in pressure situation; could not handle the hype but also didn't have the right horses for the courses; and can't seem to change the jockey no matter what; and is clearly the common denominator at this stage.

IMO, JF is a very good start up HC, but then needs to leave when the rubber really starts hitting the pavement. I said years ago, Ron Zook like.

Football is no different than any other business organization and the type of leadership needed at different stages of Org Dev crosses over. 

JF, imo, would be great at getting programs e.g. any of the lower performing FL schools, VA TECH, UVa, west coast schools up and running, and then moving on.

 

I disagree with your assessment of the defense for the first 3 games or even up intil they played UCLA...Losing Rojas was a devastating blow as it is clear that #0 is a step late and can't get to the gap and beat the seal block...

I agree with the wrong type of QB for the scheme but as a coach you change YOUR scheme to FIT your QB and personnel...

I don't agree with the RB assessment...They are 2 different RB's...Allen is your 1st and 2nd down back along with your short yardage back...Singleton is your big play back who you want to get out into space...They are both tremendous backs with different skill sets...They have yet to put Singleton in the position he needs to succeed...

I absolutely agree on the poor transfer portal integration

I totally agree on your JF assessment...Every assessment you made on JF is spot on Homer...

I believe Franklin is gone at the end of the season (possibly before but I doubt it)...The real question is who are they bringing in...This hire is the most important hire in 75 years...If they pick the wrong guy this is gonna set the program back 10 years...



   
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@roaminglion  if you think playing Alabama is the same as playing NW then I will stop.



   
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No but Oregon is Southern and that is the point...I used to argue with Roam about this myself but he is right...The last 3 games have shown me the light...It's the coaches...I don't give a flying rip who the hell you put in there it is gonna be the same result...These guys ain't prepared...It's not the players...I am excited to see who they bring in to lead them to the next level...



   
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@the-funeral-director  we’ll see the rest of the year because I believe we got better this morning. I told y’all DA was terrible 3 years ago



   
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I am here to tell you that I would give anything for you to be right and me to be wrong about this...Unfortunately I have no doubt in my mind that nothing is going to be different because Allar wasn't the problem...He was the victim of a coaching staff who didn't prepare him properly or put him in a position to succeed...The problems with this team isn't a personnel or talent issue but a coaching issue...I am certain that issue will no longer be an issue after this season is over...You could bring Brady out of retirement and he wouldn't be no different because the OC is a joke and the head coach can't get it done...I have seen enough...



   
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@the-funeral-director explain how McSorley was an all big 10 QB and both McSorely and Clifford had NFL careers. We weren’t losing games back then because f the QB we were losing because other teams were just better at the time. The last 3 or 4 years are the best teams James Franklin has had. They fudge up recruiting a QB that doesn’t fit what we want to do on offense and that’s James Franklin fault.


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McSorley was an intangibles guy like McGloin was...I wouldn't say either of them has had an NFL "career"...They both played in the league as backups and barely saw any playing time...Lets see how the season plays out Southern...One of us is going to be right...I personally don't think it matters who the QB is...It's the coaching...They don't prepare these guys properly and put them in positions to succeed...There is a reason why Franklin is going to be shown the door after this season...



   
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Grunks first series will be:

  1. Hand-off
  2. Hand-off
  3. QB Draw

2nd series:

  1. Hand-off
  2. Screen
  3. WR pitch or QB draw

3rd series:

  1. Screen
  2. Hand-off
  3. RPO with him running for his life

On the other hand they keep him from designated runs due to lack of depth at QB. 



   
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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan

@roaminglion  if you think playing Alabama is the same as playing NW then I will stop.

If you think I'm comparing Alabama to NW then I don't know what else to say. It's pointless to continue

 



   
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Posted by: @the-funeral-director

McSorley was an intangibles guy like McGloin was...I wouldn't say either of them has had an NFL "career"...They both played in the league as backups and barely saw any playing time...Lets see how the season plays out Southern...One of us is going to be right...I personally don't think it matters who the QB is...It's the coaching...They don't prepare these guys properly and put them in positions to succeed...There is a reason why Franklin is going to be shown the door after this season...

Who gives a chit who is right. If the QB sucks it's coaching, and if the QB is awesome it's still the effing coaches fault for not playing him. It's what I keep saying, Allar was a symptom not the problem. Southern just wants to blame a QB with his nonsensical, constant goal post shifting rhetoric so he can say he knows how good the backup is. He said Allar was great when Clifford was playing, he said Pribula was great and he just lost his team a big game, he said Stevens was great and he sucked at Mississippi State, and he said Levis was awesome and he's a damn dud who even fooled NFL scouts. He was right about McSorley, no one else since has been worth a damn. Even McSorley choked in big games most of the time.

Now queue him making excuses about offensive lines, talent around him, etc. to blame Allar more. Simple fact is Franklin ruins QBs.

 


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@the-funeral-director you don’t sniff the NFL unless you got something to offer. Just make the practice squad you have to be a bad ass FD.



   
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@roaminglion I’ve never said DA was great and you better go back and look I never wanted DA on the field while Clifford was QB and I said so.



   
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Posted by: @southern-psu-fan

@the-funeral-director you don’t sniff the NFL unless you got something to offer. Just make the practice squad you have to be a bad ass FD.

And Allar will be in the NFL next year but you say he sucks. 

 



   
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@psujoe  he sucks in our offense. He needs a prostyle offense something that fits his play. He was Hack in our offense. I’ve said many times he needs a coach like Lincoln Riley or Kirby Smart


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I am going on the record as saying I was wrong on this...There is no doubt this isn't a personnel issue it is and was a coaching issue...We are all about to find out if Franklin was the problem...Lets see what these coordinators do now that Franklin is gone...We are going to find out how much meddling Franklin did with these game plans...



   
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Posted by: @the-funeral-director

I am going on the record as saying I was wrong on this...There is no doubt this isn't a personnel issue it is and was a coaching issue...We are all about to find out if Franklin was the problem...Lets see what these coordinators do now that Franklin is gone...We are going to find out how much meddling Franklin did with these game plans...

If our offense looks dynamic next week it's just going to piss me off. LMAO

 



   
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@roaminglion let’s just win roam lol



   
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you never really know for sure but I have a feeling we are going to see a very different product on the field...especially offensively...if they come out and look offensively like I think they will it is indeed going to be infuriating to see...



   
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Posted by: @the-funeral-director

you never really know for sure but I have a feeling we are going to see a very different product on the field...especially offensively...if they come out and look offensively like I think they will it is indeed going to be infuriating to see...

It would 100% confirm to me that idiot was hiring OC's and forcing them to run his philosophy. FFS

 



   
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@the-funeral-director 

Meddling way too much!



   
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I don't doubt it Roam...We are going to find out Saturday night...LOL



   
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