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(@roaminglion)
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If Indiana winds up beating Ohio State, and wins the Big Ten this year... and then falls back to the middle of the pack next year will people really give them credit for winning the Big Ten? 

Personally I think whoever wins the Big Ten this year is going to have a big fat asterisk next to it. The only way anyone would respect anything Indiana is doing this year is if they're able to replicate it next year.



   
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No asterisk in my book. The circumstances are the same for all teams. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Trying to tarnish an accomplishment disrespects the efforts of a team and the capacity to deal with adversity. 

But I expect fans to use covid as an excuse. Real warriors don’t need excuses. 



   
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My question is how Rutgers hanged 27 points on OSU and how they beat Michigan state.  If Penn state loses today it can very well be a winless season.  Strange year of football.  



   
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Posted by: @sky

No asterisk in my book. The circumstances are the same for all teams. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Trying to tarnish an accomplishment disrespects the efforts of a team and the capacity to deal with adversity. 

But I expect fans to use covid as an excuse. Real warriors don’t need excuses. 

The fact that one team in the Big Ten has had 2 games cancelled, other schools have had 2 or more cancelled, and a whole conference isn't even playing kinda shoots down your notion of everyone having the same circumstances.



   
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Yea you get a free pass to avoid OSU.  Take a week off.



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion
Posted by: @sky

No asterisk in my book. The circumstances are the same for all teams. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Trying to tarnish an accomplishment disrespects the efforts of a team and the capacity to deal with adversity. 

But I expect fans to use covid as an excuse. Real warriors don’t need excuses. 

The fact that one team in the Big Ten has had 2 games cancelled, other schools have had 2 or more cancelled, and a whole conference isn't even playing kinda shoots down your notion of everyone having the same circumstances.

And of course there's still that other excuse "too many new coaches" which has been nominated for excuse of the year.



   
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@psujoe

Joe why do you continue to troll on this site. Why not find a team you actually like and ruin their site.



   
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Posted by: @sky

No asterisk in my book. The circumstances are the same for all teams. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Trying to tarnish an accomplishment disrespects the efforts of a team and the capacity to deal with adversity. 

But I expect fans to use covid as an excuse. Real warriors don’t need excuses. 

The fact that one team in the Big Ten has had 2 games cancelled, other schools have had 2 or more cancelled, and a whole conference isn't even playing kinda shoots down your notion of everyone having the same circumstances.

And of course there's still that other excuse "too many new coaches" which has been nominated for excuse of the year.

Nice invented statement since absolutely no one has stated "too many" new coaches was a issue.

There has been a statement that since the new OC didn't have a chance to work with the team until late August, that was a hindrance. How you twisted that into "too many" is a mystery.



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion
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Posted by: @sky

No asterisk in my book. The circumstances are the same for all teams. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Trying to tarnish an accomplishment disrespects the efforts of a team and the capacity to deal with adversity. 

But I expect fans to use covid as an excuse. Real warriors don’t need excuses. 

The fact that one team in the Big Ten has had 2 games cancelled, other schools have had 2 or more cancelled, and a whole conference isn't even playing kinda shoots down your notion of everyone having the same circumstances.

And of course there's still that other excuse "too many new coaches" which has been nominated for excuse of the year.

Nice invented statement since absolutely no one has stated "too many" new coaches was a issue.

There has been a statement that since the new OC didn't have a chance to work with the team until late August, that was a hindrance. How you twisted that into "too many" is a mystery.

You should be in politics,it was stated many times in last weeks live chat.



   
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I did say we have a new OC, DL coach and a new OL coach and it takes time for the coaches to adjust to the the players. With not much practice and 3 very important new coaches can affect the team it even affects NFL teams. I’m just giving my opinion why we look so bad I’m not being a crybaby about it we lost fair and square but these coaching changes do hurt. Look at Alabama defense today after changing DC’s 3 times the last 5 years it’s hurt Alabama’s defense because Alabama still has 4* and 5* kids all over their defense.



   
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@southern-psu-fan Rutgers has a whole new staff and was shut down for a time, no practice, due to covid.  Why can they win games when we can't?  Also Arizona has a new OC and he implemented his play book on zoom, and they went toe to toe with USC why can't we do that.  New coaches are not an excuse.



   
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@cohappy

I just don't think it is fair WE have to live through two Pandemics.....Covid19 and NoWIN20! 



   
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Posted by: @psugrad81

@psujoe

Joe why do you continue to troll on this site. Why not find a team you actually like and ruin their site.

Joe/Snake/Pipe and his many other names has been trolling this site all the way back to Penn Live. He says he is new but slips up in his posts and says things that only someone trolling the site would know about. He was called out weeks ago on the chat board and. Same old crap from Joe/Snake/Pipe from Aristes Pa who is deathly afraid of the the Funeral Director!!  



   
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Posted by: @roaminglion
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Posted by: @roaminglion
Posted by: @sky

No asterisk in my book. The circumstances are the same for all teams. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Trying to tarnish an accomplishment disrespects the efforts of a team and the capacity to deal with adversity. 

But I expect fans to use covid as an excuse. Real warriors don’t need excuses. 

The fact that one team in the Big Ten has had 2 games cancelled, other schools have had 2 or more cancelled, and a whole conference isn't even playing kinda shoots down your notion of everyone having the same circumstances.

And of course there's still that other excuse "too many new coaches" which has been nominated for excuse of the year.

Nice invented statement since absolutely no one has stated "too many" new coaches was a issue.

There has been a statement that since the new OC didn't have a chance to work with the team until late August, that was a hindrance. How you twisted that into "too many" is a mystery.

You should be in politics,it was stated many times in last weeks live chat.

Not by me, and I don't remember seeing anyone else say it either. Closest thing would be Southern up above saying a few new coaches are new so things might take some time, but yeah you keep on trying to push that narrative of "too many coaches is why we're 0-5"

LMAO



   
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He's still pounding the cracklin' Coronas, Navy, lmao.

 



   
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Posted by: @navylion
Posted by: @psugrad81

@psujoe

Joe why do you continue to troll on this site. Why not find a team you actually like and ruin their site.

Joe/Snake/Pipe and his many other names has been trolling this site all the way back to Penn Live. He says he is new but slips up in his posts and says things that only someone trolling the site would know about. He was called out weeks ago on the chat board and. Same old crap from Joe/Snake/Pipe from Aristes Pa who is deathly afraid of the the Funeral Director!!  

Never said I was new and never used those nics nor have I had any other nic on this website but yes I was on Pennlive. And those weren't slip ups. Try again?



   
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Posted by: @navylion
Posted by: @psugrad81

@psujoe

Joe why do you continue to troll on this site. Why not find a team you actually like and ruin their site.

Joe/Snake/Pipe and his many other names has been trolling this site all the way back to Penn Live. He says he is new but slips up in his posts and says things that only someone trolling the site would know about. He was called out weeks ago on the chat board and. Same old crap from Joe/Snake/Pipe from Aristes Pa who is deathly afraid of the the Funeral Director!!  

Mr NL, he's not a troll.  Its just a coincidence that he showed up about the same time that PSU started their skid.  Cave needs to send him on another fishing trip.  You live in FLA right??  Perhaps you can arrange an ice-fishing trip for him down there.



   
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Posted by: @thepakid
Posted by: @navylion
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@psujoe

Joe why do you continue to troll on this site. Why not find a team you actually like and ruin their site.

Joe/Snake/Pipe and his many other names has been trolling this site all the way back to Penn Live. He says he is new but slips up in his posts and says things that only someone trolling the site would know about. He was called out weeks ago on the chat board and. Same old crap from Joe/Snake/Pipe from Aristes Pa who is deathly afraid of the the Funeral Director!!  

Mr NL, he's not a troll.  Its just a coincidence that he showed up about the same time that PSU started their skid.  Cave needs to send him on another fishing trip.  You live in FLA right??  Perhaps you can arrange an ice-fishing trip for him down there.

PA, I would take him on a nice Bass or Crappie fishing trip down the road on Black Creek, down near alligator alley!! Get him up close and personal to the wild life!!! LOL!!



   
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@psujoe

Joe why do you continue to troll on this site. Why not find a team you actually like and ruin their site.

Joe/Snake/Pipe and his many other names has been trolling this site all the way back to Penn Live. He says he is new but slips up in his posts and says things that only someone trolling the site would know about. He was called out weeks ago on the chat board and. Same old crap from Joe/Snake/Pipe from Aristes Pa who is deathly afraid of the the Funeral Director!!  

Never said I was new and never used those nics nor have I had any other nic on this website but yes I was on Pennlive. And those weren't slip ups. Try again?

1. "Never said I was new"
2. "...nor have I had any other nic on this website"

He's just been lying in the weeds gentleman, biding his time for a few years to come back and talk. LMAO



   
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Wow there's some seriously angry people here. Reminds me of the old days over on Pennlive where the same 4 people that thought they were running the forum would attack anyone with differing opinions. 



   
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Before this thread and numerous others flared up I probably wouldn't have had an issue revealing my old PL ID but now that I see for some odd reason it's getting under your skin I think I'll just let it fester. Your attempt at ID'ng me has been futile.

 



   
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@psujoe. Southern knows! Lol



   
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Posted by: @psujoe

Before this thread and numerous others flared up I probably wouldn't have had an issue revealing my old PL ID but now that I see for some odd reason it's getting under your skin I think I'll just let it fester. Your attempt at ID'ng me has been futile.

 

I dont mean to piss in your cheerios son, but I honestly dont think anyone gives a damn who you are.



   
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Posted by: @tsuga
Posted by: @psujoe

Before this thread and numerous others flared up I probably wouldn't have had an issue revealing my old PL ID but now that I see for some odd reason it's getting under your skin I think I'll just let it fester. Your attempt at ID'ng me has been futile.

 

I dont mean to piss in your cheerios son, but I honestly dont think anyone gives a damn who you are.

Correct, we don't care who you are. We just hope you go away.

 



   
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