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There were 2.4 million migrant crossings in the U.S. in fiscal year 2023, a new record, and more than 7 million have entered since 2021. While some of those have been returned or deported, many others have instead been processed and released into the U.S. Overall, nearly 7.3 million migrants have crossed the southern border under President Biden's watch, a Fox News analysis earlier this year found. 

If this is true and all these people are living off the taxpayers why should I believe there is a debt crisis. Where are all these people going? We all know this is just politics and republicans do the same thing just in different ways. Are we all being delusional and deceived to believe there’s a national crisis of debt? Obama,Trump and  president Biden have all spent trillion of taxpayer dollars and George Bush bailed out all of his rich buddies with trillions of dollars and none of ‘em seem to care about the nation debt. Look at the money being thrown around college football right now and that money has always been there it’s been going in somebody’s pockets. I just don’t get it when we see with our own eyes what we see going on with spending. The migrants article is on Fox News I copied it because I can’t put it on here.

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There were 2.4 million migrant crossings in the U.S. in fiscal year 2023, a new record, and more than 7 million have entered since 2021. While some of those have been returned or deported, many others have instead been processed and released into the U.S. Overall, nearly 7.3 million migrants have crossed the southern border under President Biden's watch, a Fox News analysis earlier this year found. 

If this is true and all these people are living off the taxpayers why should I believe there is a debt crisis. Where are all these people going? We all know this is just politics and republicans do the same thing just in different ways. Are we all being delusional and deceived to believe there’s a national crisis of debt? Obama,Trump and  president Biden have all spent trillion of taxpayer dollars and George Bush bailed out all of his rich buddies with trillions of dollars and none of ‘em seem to care about the nation debt. Look at the money being thrown around college football right now and that money has always been there it’s been going in somebody’s pockets. I just don’t get it when we see with our own eyes what we see going on with spending. The migrants article is on Fox News I copied it because I can’t put it on here.

 

Sure you can Southern.  Copy and paste works for me all the time.  Show us the figures Southern.  Take your mouse cursor,  drag it across the web address, highlight it, right click , copy. 

 


   
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@forum-titan  I’m on my phone I don’t use a computer


   
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Pretty sure SPF was talking about posting the link. Some you can post, other get you thrown out of your log in.

 

Funny, most of the vocal folks that were saying, This is how America was founded, we should let ever Tom, Dick and Harriet in across the border, are pretty quiet these days. And the Sanctuary City officials are suing to keep them out of "their" city. 

 

Planted my sweet potatoes today. I can taste sweet potato pie already! Hey SPF, did you get your Shoo Fly pie?

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Simple answer is the President can't fix the border, the Congress has to act and they haven't done so in 40+ years. All any President can do is issue executive orders that are Band-Aids to the actual problem.

Here's how it goes:

  • Republican in office, wants to "fix border" but parties in Congress won't agree on how
  • Democrat in office, wants to "fix border" but parties in Congress won't agree on how

-or-

  • All three houses controlled by one party... in-fighting begins and nothing happens

 

It's a perpetual clusterf*ck.


   
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@been-there-ii  not yet but I did have sweet potatoe pie lol. I’m still working on it though.


   
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Simple answer is the President can't fix the border, the Congress has to act and they haven't done so in 40+ years. All any President can do is issue executive orders that are Band-Aids to the actual problem.

Here's how it goes:

  • Republican in office, wants to "fix border" but parties in Congress won't agree on how
  • Democrat in office, wants to "fix border" but parties in Congress won't agree on how

-or-

  • All three houses controlled by one party... in-fighting begins and nothing happens

 

It's a perpetual clusterf*ck.

 

Thank you! Yes, you are absolutely correct.  On occasion I get into this subject with others. The border was always a problem and will always be that way. The Trump border wall was and still is a complete joke.

It's riddled with holes from torches. Very poorly engineered. In addition,  the border wall scheme was in full force as the funds were being pocketed. Many other Countries have the same problem. Too many people believe Presidents have switches that flip on and off for every single problem. 

 

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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 


   
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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 

 

Man up. Next time log in as Kularrow..

 


   
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@psujoe Perhaps I am just used to being attacked, but it's not an excuse. My apologies for assuming you were replying to me, that is totally my bad.


   
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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 

 

Man up. Next time log in as Kularrow..

 

You rang? Sorry I got lost in a really interesting owners manual, it’s been taking all my time up.

 


   
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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 

 

Man up. Next time log in as Kularrow..

 

You rang? Sorry I got lost in a really interesting owners manual, it’s been taking all my time up.

 

 

Funny how you show up all the sudden. I still don't know why you are so intrigued with someone who was eating and reading a manual.  Why are you so aroused  about that? It's no different than reading the newspaper sports column and having a coffee in the morning.  

 


   
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@psujoe Perhaps I am just used to being attacked, but it's not an excuse. My apologies for assuming you were replying to me, that is totally my bad.

 

Roam, stay clear of this guy. Bad, bad attitude.  He's worse than a troll 

 


   
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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 

 

Man up. Next time log in as Kularrow..

 

You rang? Sorry I got lost in a really interesting owners manual, it’s been taking all my time up.

 

 

Funny how you show up all the sudden. I still don't know why you are so intrigued with someone who was eating and reading a manual.  Why are you so aroused  about that? It's no different than reading the newspaper sports column and having a coffee in the morning.  

 

I’m glad you found your calling in being obsessed with Trump and eating soup because understanding border security and politics certainly aren’t your expertise.

 


   
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Posted by: @roaminglion

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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 

 

Man up. Next time log in as Kularrow..

 

You rang? Sorry I got lost in a really interesting owners manual, it’s been taking all my time up.

 

 

Funny how you show up all the sudden. I still don't know why you are so intrigued with someone who was eating and reading a manual.  Why are you so aroused  about that? It's no different than reading the newspaper sports column and having a coffee in the morning.  

 

I’m glad you found your calling in being obsessed with Trump and eating soup because understanding border security and politics certainly aren’t your expertise.

 

 

 

Lmao, spinning the subject around much? You finally realized that you no longer have any strong points in this topic so now you bring Trump into the subject. Log out, and log back in as PSUJOE 

 

 

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LMAO @ the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong. 
Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims? Yes there probably has but the fact of the matter is that the border crisis has ballooned since Biden has been in office so let’s not pretend his policies have nothing to do with it. Just like it’s foolish to think his policies have nothing to do with the price of gas or inflation.
As far as the question that Southern asks as to where those people that have crossed the border ILLEGALLY have gone? Take a look around they’re everywhere.

"Has there been a border crisis for decades as Roam claims?"

1. I never claimed there was a "crisis" for decades, I said they have not "fixed" the border in 40 years. And yes, they have been talking about fixing it for 40 years, that isn't a secret.

2. You asked the question, and then said "yeah but...." and shifted the conversation into "Biden sucks" mode.

3. You continually strawman someone saying the President can't fix something with "The President has nothing to do with it". I literally stated "Presidents use executive orders to put Band-Aids on the real problem", which means their policies do affect the border... they just don't fully fix the border. That's really not hard to understand.

At no point in my post did I even mention Biden, yet you've concocted some weird narrative that I'm somehow protecting Biden from criticism.

"the moron thinking he gets to decide who is correct and who is wrong" - Ironic how you say that considering I didn't say anyone was "wrong" in my post, and simply stated the fact that for 40 years no matter who is in power the border has not gotten fixed... yet your entire post is about how I am "wrong"

 

FYI the “moron” I was referring to is Niccy not you and I thought I was agreeing with what you said about the border crisis or problem, whatever you want to call it. Seems like paranoia is setting in.

 

 

Man up. Next time log in as Kularrow..

 

You rang? Sorry I got lost in a really interesting owners manual, it’s been taking all my time up.

 

 

Funny how you show up all the sudden. I still don't know why you are so intrigued with someone who was eating and reading a manual.  Why are you so aroused  about that? It's no different than reading the newspaper sports column and having a coffee in the morning.  

 

I’m glad you found your calling in being obsessed with Trump and eating soup because understanding border security and politics certainly aren’t your expertise.

 

 

Talk about building a better border...does Steve Bannon ring a bell.

 


   
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@psujoe Perhaps I am just used to being attacked, but it's not an excuse. My apologies for assuming you were replying to me, that is totally my bad.

 

Roam, stay clear of this guy. Bad, bad attitude.  He's worse than a troll 

 

When you're wrong, you're wrong... and I was wrong. He wasn't talking to me, and I thought he was. It's my mistake.

 

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